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Posted by Andrei on Thu Dec 1st at 7:57pm 2005

Well if a map has a leak, then that pretty much means that it's more than just a cube combined with the hollow tool. A step in the right direction? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">




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 Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by satchmo on Thu Dec 1st at 9:33pm 2005

Notice the dust cobblestone road texture was used as a triangular roof? Is it possible to think of a worse use of texture?

Oh yeah, make a large surface filled with repetitive texture. That's how you do it.




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Posted by Andrei on Thu Dec 1st at 9:59pm 2005

Here?s how a 5/5 map looks like: http://www.cstrike-planet.com/maps/643

So who cares it?s an iceworld clone? It?s fun! And who really gives a damn that it?s uglier than the hl1 one? It?s got gameplay! And what kind of a lunatic would care that decency has gone to heck the moment this got a 5/5? Cloning copies of cloned killbox clones is the l337 thing to do.
At least make some original killboxes.





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Dec 2nd at 1:09am 2005

The funny thing is it is rated 5/5 and has more than 1k downloads, but the zip file is empty.




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Posted by satchmo on Fri Dec 2nd at 3:11am 2005

But hey, it deserves a 5/5 because it's not full bright and it has no leak.



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Dec 2nd at 4:37am 2005

Nor curves.




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Fri Dec 2nd at 7:24am 2005

I can't see why anyone is shocked at this sort of thing. It's not like this is a new occurance. The stupidity of the mapping 'community' and the people who run the servers and play the maps is staggering, and nothing will change.

Custom mapping is dead, let it die already.





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Posted by satchmo on Fri Dec 2nd at 4:29pm 2005

Check this out. It's from the same website, and it's a very nice looking map.

Mapping is alive and well. Just look at the SnarkPit.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Dec 2nd at 4:46pm 2005

Did he make those billiard balls out of brushes?




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Posted by satchmo on Fri Dec 2nd at 4:48pm 2005

Looks like it. They look hexongonal instead of spherical.


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Posted by pepper on Fri Dec 2nd at 10:53pm 2005

It doesnt surprise me a bit, all of these maps excist because its to easy to compile a map.

As an example i will take the flightsimmulator community, most of the planes out there are of a certain quality standard, mainly because a good knowdledge of the programs is required to use them. Offcourse you got your occasional plane that fails to texture a yoke in the VC. But you hardly see those anymore.




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sat Dec 3rd at 2:34am 2005

? quoting satchmo
Check this out. It's from the same website, and it's a very nice looking map.

Mapping is alive and well. Just look at the SnarkPit.

hahaha wrong map to promote. I don't even have to download it to know it sucks and here's why:

1. based on a real house layout
2. uses cs_mansion style gameplay which was never good or fun
3. author promotes 'fast paced' and 'tons of physics props' which might as well be code words for 'fy_ map' and 'fun map'
4. absolutely brutal brushwork

but give me an hour or three to run through it so I don't get accused of being an ass or assuming things





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Posted by satchmo on Sat Dec 3rd at 4:21am 2005

The brushwork does look primitive (like my first map of my apartment), but at least it's not thrown together in a couple of minutes with no light entity.




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sat Dec 3rd at 8:46am 2005

Indeed, but just because it's a step up above a 10 min box doesn't mean that it should be posted on the internet for download or promoted across websites. However no doubt this map has been praised for its awesomeness and is being run on hundreds of CSS servers.



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Posted by Andrei on Sat Dec 3rd at 11:08am 2005

Aren't you being a little too harsh with this map? Sure, its unoriginal and the billiard balls are huge and blocky, but let's play it first, so that we'll have proper ammunition for our flame cannons later.




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Posted by Naklajat on Sat Dec 3rd at 11:29am 2005

I've actually played that map. It was nothing special, the rooms and halls were too short and narrow (probably a result of direct unit conversion). Some people like it, most I've encountered don't.



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Sat Dec 3rd at 1:11pm 2005

? quoting Andrei
Aren't you being a little too harsh with this map? Sure, its unoriginal and the billiard balls are huge and blocky, but let's play it first, so that we'll have proper ammunition for our flame cannons later.

nah

I know a s**t map when I see it, I spent years studying my own creations.





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Posted by Guessmyname on Sat Dec 3rd at 2:03pm 2005

Now, now, 5 minute maps aren't that bad










If they can make something in that time frame (bearing in mind that won't know what the hell they're doing - if they do they should be commiting themselves to grander projects) then they are commenably skilled!

But seriously, I don't know whats worse: the fact that people release these maps (making them is perfectly fine - my test maps are often in fullbright unless I'm actually testing out lighting) or the fact that people play these maps.

An aim maps can be fun. Though that view might be biased from the fact that the only aim maps I've played are aim_inquistion (by me) and aim_canal (which is of a high quality. Check the interlopers downloads section)



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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Dec 3rd at 7:57pm 2005

I actually played that map randomly on a server a long time ago, it was before it had the pool table and stuff. It was alright so far as personal house maps go, but it was pretty laggy before and I can't see it being better now that it's stocked full of props and more junk. It's by no means something I'd want on a rotation, but it's one of those maps to do stupid stuff with friends.





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