Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Gollum on Wed Nov 16th at 4:04pm 2005


I think it comes down to the fact that the people who make lots of killbox type maps are, for lack of a better word, noobs.


I think it comes down to the fact that the people who make lots of killbox type maps are, for lack of a better word, morons.




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by fishy on Wed Nov 16th at 4:16pm 2005


? quoting Gollum
I think it comes down to the fact that the people who make lots of killbox type maps are, for lack of a better word, noobs.



I think it comes down to the fact that the people who make lots of killbox type maps are, for lack of a better word, morons.

could we compromise and call them moronic noobs?




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Gollum on Wed Nov 16th at 4:53pm 2005


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? quoting Gollum
I think it comes down to the fact that the people who make lots of killbox type maps are, for lack of a better word, noobs.



I think it comes down to the fact that the people who make lots of killbox type maps are, for lack of a better word, morons.

could we compromise and call them moronic noobs?


I prefer noobic morons





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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by G4MER on Wed Nov 16th at 5:00pm 2005


I prefer..






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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Naklajat on Wed Nov 16th at 6:01pm 2005


Affirmative.

btw, the pic would not work until I right clicked and hit 'view image'.



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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by satchmo on Wed Nov 16th at 10:19pm 2005


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I prefer noobic morons

Does that imply they were once 1337, and they've just recently become a moron?

And considering the different grades of stupidity, shall we refer to them as "idiots" rather than "morons". Calling them morons may be giving them too much credit.

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In 1910, Henry H. Goddard proposed three categories for the "feeble-minded" based on IQ scores: moron (IQ of 51-70), imbecile (IQ of 26-50), and idiot (IQ of 0-25). This taxonomy was the standard of intelligence research for decades.




"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Andrei on Wed Nov 16th at 10:31pm 2005


I always imagined morons being dumber than idiots .

I'd rather be called mentally retarded than a moron TBH.




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Captain P on Thu Nov 17th at 12:43am 2005


As far as I know idiot just means 'different thinking' with a negative load to it. Moron sounds indeed more negative.

However, if those guys are having fun with their silly unlit maps, let them have it. It's a bit sad graphics don't say a thing to them. Then again, the game industry is a bit sad since graphics mean too much to them, or so it seems... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">






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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Nov 17th at 12:55am 2005


I fancy imbecile.




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Andrei on Thu Nov 17th at 9:29am 2005


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Then again, the game industry is a bit sad since graphics mean too much to them, or so it seems...


Yeah, but these maps aren't any fun either.




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Captain P on Thu Nov 17th at 9:47am 2005


I know, we're talking about the worse thing here, but I thought I'd mention it just to put things into perspective a bit.






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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Gaara on Fri Nov 18th at 1:36pm 2005


Why do people feel such a compulsion to post s**tty maps? I started pretty recently (about a month ago) but I've just been reading tutorials and NOT making killboxes. The reason for this is probably because the first place I went to from google was snarkpit, and boy oh boy did I see people get made fun of for posting s**tty maps and making minor errors. I'm sure as hell glad I didn't bump into that site first. So far I haven't posted one map yet though I have made 5 or 6 complete maps but I don't think any of them are worth posting.


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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by satchmo on Fri Nov 18th at 2:46pm 2005


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Why do people feel such a compulsion to post s**tty maps?

I believe it's their inability to discern the difference between an official map and their full-bright killbox. I think some people are just not very observant, and they don't know any better.

That, and also the exhilarating thrill when you made your first map make you just want to share your little virtual world withe the rest of the real world. It's comparable to a five-year-old making his first doodle and wanting to post it on the refrigerator to display his masterpiece.

The abundance of killboxes out there also helps lowering the mapping standard and making other players condone such low-quality maps.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Nov 18th at 3:56pm 2005


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That, and also the exhilarating thrill when you made your first map make you just want to share your little virtual world withe the rest of the real world. It's comparable to a five-year-old making his first doodle and wanting to post it on the refrigerator to display his masterpiece.



I think that's a big part of it.

Also, I think it's because these "mappers" are surrounded by people who tell them how cool their maps are. For anyone who hasn't mapped, the idea of creating anything playable is pretty impressive. I mean, I created an aim map for a friend and he was going nuts over it but I was like... I can't believe I'm doing this. Travesty!




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Posted by Naklajat on Fri Nov 18th at 4:41pm 2005


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The abundance of killboxes out there also helps lowering the mapping standard and making other players condone such low-quality maps.

It's not fair either, that serious mappers toil over layout and detail for many hours just to have people say "this map sucks, lets go play <insert killbox here>," a map that could have been made in 20 minutes. At least for me, it can be discouraging at times.



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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by satchmo on Fri Nov 18th at 5:06pm 2005


...but then again, do you really care about the opinion of those immature dunce?

If my map gets a compliment from a respectable fellow mapper (even a small one), I am very satisfied.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Underdog on Fri Nov 18th at 10:33pm 2005


I have not read this entire thread yet but one thing I think needs cautioning on. Try not to flame the other site in such a way as to incite retaliatory responses if you can help it. If the maps are truly that bad, then so are most probably the members and they will have no compulsion against bringing the fight to our doors.

I have probably visited at least as many sites as the average user here and one thing is consistent about them all. No one likes being compared to another site no matter how strong the pro's and con's for doing so.

This is not a complaint. Its more just simple advice gleaned over many years of online time.

Please feel free to ignore this post if someone has already mentioned this point.




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by satchmo on Thu Dec 1st at 6:15am 2005


It's not aimed at the CStrike Planet site. In fact, the site itself is run extremely well, and the moderators are some of the best.

But what I can't fathom is why do people download these crappy maps? Sometimes I go through the collection trying to find the most terrible map I can possibly find. I ran into this one today, but then there are other maps like this one that is actually well-liked by some.

I just don't get it.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Andrei on Thu Dec 1st at 5:26pm 2005


YEOW! MY EYES ARE BURNING!!!

I can understand the sensation of pride a mapper has when he creates something, but why people insist on playing these is beyond my understanding.




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Re: Full Bright Where the Sun Doesn't Shine
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Dec 1st at 6:46pm 2005


How hard is it to make a map no bigger than 1 room that doesn't have a leak?





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