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Posted by half-dude on Sat Nov 19th at 9:55pm 2005

Hey all its me Half-dude!

I was tring to start a server that me and my friend back in Washington could play on, just him and me. So I go to "start server" and I set it up and go into the game. Then I call my friend and he says that he doesn't see i, so I look in the list and I dont see it either but instead it's listed in LAN game.

Whats troubling about this is that I COULD start a server with the first Gary's mod what gives? Also, I noticed that when we are tring to agree on what server to join we dont have all the same servers on our list! Whats whith that?

I have also had this same problem with COD and HOHAA.




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Posted by Andrei on Sat Nov 19th at 10:08pm 2005

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instead it's listed in LAN game.



That's because it probably IS a LAN game. You need to get the (Source) Dedicated Server Tool.




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Posted by Naklajat on Sat Nov 19th at 10:23pm 2005

Negative, make sure sv_lan is set to 0 in the console. Other than that I think it may be a firewall issue. Make sure port 27015 is configured to allow incoming connections via steam.exe. You can get an internet game going using the 'create game' option. Getting srcds is also an option, though you have to configure your firewall and/or router for that too.



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Posted by Underdog on Sat Nov 19th at 10:37pm 2005

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Posted by Crono on Sat Nov 19th at 11:44pm 2005

Just go to: Start >> Run >> cmd >> ipconfig /all ... your IP address is right there.
If you're on a router, open a browser, goto the router's ip address (usually something like 192.168.1.1) Look for "DMZ", that should list the IP address you've logged with your ISP. (Both are easy and fast)

IF you have a router you may need to forward some ports to make a server (depending on the game).

Steam

CoD

? quoting MoHAA
Tell it to foreward ports 12203-12300 TCP and UDP to the IP address of the computer hosting MOHAA.If you don't know it, open a command prompt on your computer and type ipconfig (This will be the ip address of the computer and no the router, which is what you want). Also the computer needs to have a static IP for port forewarding to be possible. The IP connot be assigned by DHCP. Check windows help to find out how change to static IP. Then type net_ip in MOHAA and make sure it is the address of the computer running MOHAA, or localhost. It shouldn't be the WAN ip of your cable/dsl modem.
If it needs changed, type set net_ip youraddresshere



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Posted by Underdog on Sat Nov 19th at 11:53pm 2005

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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun Nov 20th at 3:12am 2005

Assuming you're talking about a Steam game: After you set sv_lan to 0... try typing "status" in console to have your server's IP come up. Then tell your friend to type "connect XXX.XX.X:XXXX" in his console, and he should join your server directly.




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Posted by half-dude on Sun Nov 20th at 5:17am 2005

"Hopefully you will pay more attention in this thread than you do when it comes to posting screen shots 1/2Dude. "

"Good luck and may you have a few more brain cells than on your last mission."

"This is 1/2 dude, remember? Sometimes it really is best to use the K.I.S.S. method."

WTF is your problem man, why are you bashing me?

Anyway, thanks ATM I will try yours first.

Message submitted 31 minutes after original post:

Ok well that didn't work, could someone please explain to me how to do all this stuff with opening ports ect, I have windows firewall and thats it? I heard all about this stuff when I was tring to set up Doomsday for multiplayer and I could'nt please explain.


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Posted by half-dude on Sun Nov 20th at 6:50am 2005

Some images in this post have been automatically down-sized, click on them to view the full sized versions:

Here's my set up




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Posted by Underdog on Sun Nov 20th at 9:11am 2005

Why you ungrateful little s**t. Is your memory really that incapable of recalling all your last blunders?

After looking at your diagram, My post had as much chance of succeeding as anyones did but now you will just have to solve your problem without it.

I hope you screw this up because by judging from your diagram you are bound to upset dear mommy in doing so.

Next time be more appreciative.




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Posted by pepper on Sun Nov 20th at 9:14am 2005

Well, first of all make sure the right ports are re-routed to your computer, you can find them on the steam website. Then download the dedicated server in your games list. If you'd like you can run it on a other computer in your lan with steam on it, you can log in as many times as you like with steam over a lan. Actualy this is a fun little trick to trip steam into allowing you to play over the internet.

Makes sure you have 2 computers with the internet, install steam on both of them. Then, log into your account on the first computer. Let it run the dedicated server program. Now, log on into your steam account on the other computer, if everything done right the dedicated server should show up in your lan and have an internet connection at the same time. This worked everytime.




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Posted by half-dude on Sun Nov 20th at 12:27pm 2005

? quoting Underdog
Why you ungrateful little s**t. Is your memory really that incapable of recalling all your last blunders?

After looking at your diagram, My post had as much chance of succeeding as anyones did but now you will just have to solve your problem without it.

I hope you screw this up because by judging from your diagram you are bound to upset dear mommy in doing so.

Next time be more appreciative.

Yea well I guess it is, last I remember I never said anything disrespectful to you. And in case your memory is that incapable you should remember that I apologised for all misdeeds and we are done with that s**t. Anyway Im not going to continue fighting with you.




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Posted by ReNo on Sun Nov 20th at 4:06pm 2005

For god's sake, let it go. We know half-dude has had problems at this site before, but didn't we just recently try and put it behind us and let him start again? No need to take little digs at him whenever possible, especially when under the guise of a helpful post to make him appear a dick for any sort of retaliation. Underdog - did you see Crono, AtM, Andrei or Baron make any such comments? Did they serve any purpose other than to make him feel like an idiot? Stop stirring s**t where it isn't called for.




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Posted by Crono on Sun Nov 20th at 10:08pm 2005

Half-Dude, it depends on the router. You need the IP address of the router (which is in the manual, or online, just find it out there) Goto that IP address in your browser, follow a manual for your specific router which will tell you how to forward ports. I could go into the general way, but I think it'll be easier if you just read something that's identical to what you own.

If you have trouble finding a manual post up the router make and MODEL and I'll find it online (Unless the company doesn't support that, most do though, including Belkin, Linksys, and DLink, I believe)


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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Nov 21st at 12:53am 2005

? quoting half-dude
Yea well I guess it is, last I remember I never said anything disrespectful to you. And in case your memory is that incapable you should remember that I apologised for all misdeeds and we are done with that s**t. Anyway Im not going to continue fighting with you.

RIGHT ON! I'm proud of you, Half-dude!




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Posted by wil5on on Mon Nov 21st at 1:12am 2005

Thats probably the most mature post I've seen from half-dude. Well done.

As for the problem with the game, from what I see its a game problem (there may be a router issue too, but I dont think thats coming into it yet). I beleive if you just open up the console when the game starts and go "maxplayers 2" "sv_lan 0" "map whatever" it should start an internet server, then you can give your friend your IP adress and he can type "connect xx.xx.xx.xx" to join. Try joining an internet game first (through the server list), if there is a router problem this will not work, youll be unable to connect, or the server list might not show. If it works (ie. you can join a game and play for a bit), your ports are probably already unblocked.




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Posted by half-dude on Mon Nov 21st at 1:51am 2005

Ok wil5on, yea I can join games fine. I even asked the guys that set up my network if there was any firewalls in the router and he said no. Oh and Crono, I will take a picture of my router as soon as I can.

BTW I went to www.whatismyip.com and it told me this 67.48.107.84 is this what I tell my friend to connect to?




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Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st at 1:58am 2005

That IP won't be permanent (or at least probably wont), so be sure to check it out just before you go and start the server. Each time you connect to the internet you are probably assigned a new one. Don't bother posting a picture of the router, just post the make/model, which is probably either written on the thing somewhere or in/on the manual.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Mon Nov 21st at 3:12am 2005

Yeah, if this is a source game, "status" should be all you need to find the IP of the server you're hosting. Just make sure you type status after you've done the sv_lan 0 thing.




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Posted by half-dude on Mon Nov 21st at 3:34am 2005

Some images in this post have been automatically down-sized, click on them to view the full sized versions:

ok so I started the game and did maxplayers 2, sv_lan 0, map gm_construct and this is what I got in the console:

If the "udp/ip is what I should tell my friend then it's not different all the time for me because it was that same one last time.




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