Posted by wil5on on Tue Nov 22nd at 10:56pm 2005
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Posted by G4MER on Wed Nov 23rd at 2:07am 2005
Posted by Crono on Wed Nov 23rd at 3:03am 2005
If he was going to do that though, he might as well DMZ. And we all know he shouldn't do that.
Posted by half-dude on Wed Nov 23rd at 3:32am 2005
Ok so what? I read up on what it said on the Gary's mod site and it said that that problem is caused by the server host having an older version then the person connecting. So I re-downloaded and I guess I did have an older version because it had some new stuff.
Wish me luck tonight guys:) if it works I'll post some pics of us having fun thanks to you.
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Posted by Crono on Wed Nov 23rd at 3:53am 2005
I just assumed you already thought of that.
But, if you got someone to connect, then you did the port stuff properly
Posted by half-dude on Wed Nov 23rd at 10:28am 2005
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Posted by Underdog on Wed Nov 23rd at 8:11pm 2005
When I first arrived the first thing I noticed was just how hostile the atmosphere was around here. 6 months ago it would never have occurred to me to be as mean as I am now. I am not sure whether its my weak will or its just so prevalent that its very commonality incites one to be hostile.
Its obvious that half-dude is either very young or has some sort of a learning disability because almost every time he shows up something goes badly.
The point is, I do not like the way I am presently and feel that some sort of a reflective moment is in order.
I followed this thread for days. I kept saying "Just one, let there be just one decent person" I didn't expect anyone to side with me. I was almost ashamed of myself but I did fully expect at least one person to point out that jumping on me was absolutely no different than jumping on half-dude yet, I was wrong and the rest were.... not.
I suppose it may have something to do with examples. When you consider how the admin handled the situation its no wonder the situation went from bad to more bad.
Anyway, I am ashamed and will be reflecting on myself for a while. Picking on children and/or mentally incapable people is just not me.
I am not apologizing. I still feel that I was the one wronged/insulted but, I am the adult. I should know better and the atmosphere be damned there is no excuse for my behavior.
If I decide that the benefits of remaining do outweigh the cons of the atmosphere I may remain. Till then, I need to take a long look at myself.
Until then.
Thanks for your time. If I return I will be exactly like I was when I first posted.
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Posted by Crono on Wed Nov 23rd at 9:10pm 2005
It wouldn't matter however old or the mental ability of HD or anyone you may have talked to that way. Everyone here is relatively equal. Treating someone poorly because of a situation that's fresh in your mind (even if it is resolved) is a bad move. Plain and simple. One or two people pointed that out ... one other person commented that they were happy to see HD acting very mature over the matter. Which, given the s**t-storm that just happened, is a legitimate comment.
Just let it go. No big deal, just try to treat people all the same. If you want to leave: fine. If this is the manner you're going to continue posting you won't be missed. But if you act more light hearted then I'm sure you'd be an actual asset to the community and not a road block.
Half-Dude, cool. Have fun gaming
Posted by satchmo on Wed Nov 23rd at 9:25pm 2005
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Posted by ReNo on Thu Nov 24th at 12:10am 2005
Underdog, the reason for my post was that you, for no real reason, baited Half-Dude, and I hoped that by intervening you'd think twice about doing it next time. HD was seeming to get on just fine since his eventful return, but because of your comments, tempers flared up again. Would the situation have happened if you hadn't made those comments? Of course not, the only issue was with those comments. How am I setting a bad example as a moderator by asking you to stop making them?
Also, in what way were you being jumped on as Half-Dude was? You were making uncalled for derogatory comments toward him that were obviously going to start an argument, so I told you to stop it. I wasn't insulting your intelligence as you were to HD - I was trying to stop you inciting anymore flame wars with similar needless remarks. Did it occur to you that perhaps nobody sided with you because nobody saw you as being wronged? Does that mean that there are no decent people on the site?
Take your time out, have your reflection, whatever. I for one don't want to see you leave the community, however many times we butt heads, but if that's what you choose to do, the cogs will turn regardless.
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Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Nov 24th at 12:40am 2005
Do you find Underdog to be a whinny, annoying, pompous ignoramus, whose posting drives you to the brink of insanity?
A. Yes, I would like to punch him right in the face.
B. No. Who is the Snarkpit?
Oh, sorry, the text seems to have turned blue
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Posted by Gorbachev on Thu Nov 24th at 2:02am 2005
'atta boy.
Underdog, some of your things just seem excessively overdramatic. I can't say much since you arrived while I was gone. It just seems you give a huge life story and expect so much, when really not a whole lot is necessary. If you need clarification to what I mean I can do that, otherwise just take note and there's nothing more from me.
Posted by half-dude on Thu Nov 24th at 4:56am 2005
hmmmmm.... When I was reading what Underdog said I couldn't help but notice the similarities to how he feels to how I felt when I first started getting picked on. But still, there was no reason to take it out on me. What do you have against me?
Anyway, I noticed that even though I can start a server I still have trouble getting the hang of it. What would you say I should do to start a server? I've tried everything possible and it almost seems like he can randomly join, sometimes he can and sometimes he can't.
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Posted by Gorbachev on Thu Nov 24th at 6:21am 2005
Posted by Underdog on Thu Nov 24th at 6:33pm 2005
You of all the people I have butted heads with are the last person to use such a concept. Everything you say to me when we do so is childish to me. This is only my opinion of course but still its exactly how I view our ordeals. I however, do not consider acting childish to be a bad thing when you consider that the older one gets, the more we cling to childish actions as a sort of retaining of our youth. You make it sound as if its a sin, or nearly sinful to be/act like a child. I hold it in reverence.
Just let it go. No big deal, just try to treat people all the same.
Good advice but alas poor when used. Treating different people as if they are somehow the same just because they are online is exactly why so many confrontations occur. I am not you, so the act of someone talking to me as if I were you would only infuriate me since I consider most of what you think important here to be so much background noise to be ignored if at all possible. On the same notion, you more than likely feel that everything I hold dear to be so much drivel. You probably feel that acting old as I do to be some sort of a stigma to be avoided. Most times when I talk about older things you tend to lose interest. I do not fault this since most times older people do tend to be annoying. I annoy myself more than you imagine.
Its bad because you act as if thats the beginning and the end of your responsibility. IT IS NOT!
Your obligation as moderator/admin is to assure that everyone else knows that you are ON TOP of the situation and as such REQUIRE no input from them in regards to how the person you are talking to/reprimanding should be further treated.
The fact that you did not say "Leave Underdog alone, I took care of it just fine thank you" was a sign that you had no further interest in doing WHATS RIGHT. In other words, it was not much more than mob mentality at a lynching. In many cases the one being reprimanded is more/less restricted from defending themselves because they are told to "Drop it"
Each additional person who more/less threw stones after you took charge should have been made known that their help was not necessary nor essential to your further actions in this situation. You dropped the ball and were not even aware of it. Notice I said exactly "FROM BAD TO MORE BAD" I did not say from bad to worse. The situation did not improve because you had spoken, it remained the same. This is how you messed up. I Do not necessarily fault you for what you did, you were correct in doing so. You did however handle it only halfway and should have made sure that all parties were represented fairly.
If you need clarification to what I mean I can do that,
Sadly, there is nothing you could say that would amount to more than your opinion of the situation. You could dig up examples all day long and they would be nothing more than that. I do believe that you mean exactly what you say but to me its nothing more than the fact that I do things differently than you would. Not bad, nor good, just differently.
I am still contemplating my actions. I do not feel that I was justified however, I am still endeavoring to ascertain "WHY" I acted in such a manner when it is not within my nature to do so. I am notoriously mild mannered to the point of annoying my fellows because I am the last to see things in a poor way. Since I have been here I have been on the defensive so many times that I have acquired a "Gun Shy" mentality. I do not like this position and am at a loss to figure out where and when I acquired it.
Anyway, Happy Thanksgiving to all and may you have a nice dinner and many family members to reminisce with.
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Posted by Agent Smith on Thu Nov 24th at 10:18pm 2005
...or to elaborate, lighten up! It's a f**king online games forum for pete's sake.
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Posted by satchmo on Fri Nov 25th at 1:43am 2005
And to put things in perspective, even if your computer crashes HL2 constantly and you're banned from Steam forever, it's just a game, after all.
You're still fed, you still got a roof over your head, you don't have any terminal illness.
Sometimes I have to remind myself that. When my map isn't going well, or someone gets overly critical of my map, I put things in perspective. It's not like I'm going to lose my job over a lightmap or lighting error.
We're all privileged people, having the leisure of debating these mapping issues on the internet. There are people who are being tortured, who would give anything just to have freedom or another chance in life.
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Posted by half-dude on Sat Nov 26th at 5:49am 2005
Sorry to bring up a so called "dead thread" but I feel as though the problem is'nt resolved. I have tried to have a server with my friend and at almost random it seems he's able to connect. I tried everything, starting a server with the button, from the console "maxplayers 2 - sv_lan 0 - map xxxx" and we've tried BOTH IPs:
- connect 67.48.107.84
- connect 192.168.1.101
I also made sure that my ports are forwarded and enabled and I turn off my firewall. What is wrong?
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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Nov 26th at 7:46am 2005
Make sure to put developer 1 on as well so you know what's going on and can see people connecting with more detail. As well, just select the max players in the create server launch options, don't make it more trouble than it already is and make sure they already have the map.
Make them try:
connect 67.48.107.84:27015
Posted by half-dude on Sat Nov 26th at 9:33pm 2005
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