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Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 21st at 8:19pm 2005


When I first arrived in the United States from Taiwan, I found the idea of having two people sharing the same first name strange. In China/Taiwan, no two people have the same first name. Every person has an unique name chosen by his/her parents.

The I encountered the Latino culture, where Jose, Maria, Juan, Carlos are almost ubiquitous. And then there is the Vietnamese names. There seems to be no more than a dozen to chose from--Thuy, Huy, Nguyen, Mai. Lastly, the Arabic names have the smallest variation. Every other person is a Muhammhad.

Personally I would like my children to have unique names, but not too unique so that nobody knows how to spell them. I hate the idea of naming your son/duaghter after yourself. It's stealing their identify from them. I want them to be their own persons.

What would you name your kids? I have mine picked out already with my wife.




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Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st at 8:55pm 2005


How unique are you talking here? I'm guessing you just mean that there isn't the amount of repetition found elsewhere, as opposed to the parents actually going on some sort of quest to check that their chosen name is, indeed, unique, right?

I'd also like to give my children somewhat rare names, but not so unique as to bring on ridicule. You all too often hear about utter tripe names like "Del Monte" for god's sake - while you are certainly going to have the only child named "Del Monte" on the block, product placement does not belong on the birth register.

I have possible names picked out for pets, but I don't think I could convince any woman to let me name our daughter after that loveable little ninja from Final Fantasy VII I'd certainly never name a child after myself though I don't see anything wrong with naming them after another relative or person. My middle name has been handed down through my family for about 4 generations I believe. I would almost certainly continue that tradition, unless a more pressing event (or demand from the mother) caused me to reconsider.

It's Alexander, in case anybody was actually curious

What are the names you are thinking Satchmo, if you don't mind sharing?






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Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 21st at 8:56pm 2005


Well, my parents thought the same. My name is Rainer, which you realy don't hear much. It comes from Germany and means Natural Leader. My brother and sister are Sanborn and Denver respectively, and my mom and dad are penelope and erasmus respectively. My opa is name Rudolph <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

It's a great conversation starter. Something interesting, different and with a good meaning is what I'd suggest. What did you choose for your kids?




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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Mon Nov 21st at 9:08pm 2005


Realistically, I would name my kid after a Norse god; Odin, Freyr, Heimdall, Loki, etc. Though ideally, I would want to give it an embarassing, socially-stigmatizing name, like 'Potato' or something. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 21st at 9:25pm 2005


I have a girl named Apple in my class.




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Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 21st at 9:39pm 2005


Gwnyth Paltrow's daughter is an "Apple" too.

Chinese names are pretty unique. The first name is made of two characters, but there could be one or three characters on occasions. Either of these characters is chosen from a potential 30,000 pool of characters. So the chance of ever running into another person with the same name as you is pretty slim. Here is a short lesson in Chinese characters, if you're curious.

For boys, we came up with Dylan and possibly Brandon, but Brandon is too common. We might end up with something else.

For girls, we've chosen Sydney and Ashley. I know they're pretty common still, but they're not the most common ones.

I wanted to name the sons Jerome or Jamal, but my wife thinks it's too ethnic, especially for a Chinese boy.

I like Jerome. It sounds very virile.

One of my friends is called Weasel. Seriously, that's her real name. And now she's a doctor, it's kinda funny.




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Posted by Crono on Mon Nov 21st at 9:58pm 2005


Why do people insist on putting a 'U' in 'Muhammhad' ? It makes no sense since it's pronounced "Mo-Ham-Ed", meaning, that's the closest spelling "Mohamed", how I spell my (middle). I can see using two 'm's in the middle, but past that ... why funk it up so much. I'll never understand that. (I means seriously, it sounds retarded-ly cracker to call an Arab guy "Moo-Hamm-Add". (Most people ... who speak Arabic ... pronounce "Hom - Ed".

And, by the way, there's a reason why Muslim's name their kids what they name them. The last name actually changed every so generations. You're suppose to name your kid Whatever, then the 1st middle name is the fathers name, 2nd middle name is the grandfather's name and the last name is the great grandfather's name. However, usually once they drop it they start over so the last name lasts a few generations.

Anyway, yeah, I don't like a lot of English names. (Common). You always try to find something unique and sounds nice ... it doesn't matter how unique a name is if it sounds like ass.

I like the name Ilona ... not sure if that's how you spell it, but it's pronounced (Ill-Lawn-Ah), girls name, hopefully.

Then again, there's a good way to choose girls name. Use non-manly boys names. I met this chick named Dale before. Very ambiguous. I'm sure they spelled it differently though.

I met this one dude his name was Elane or something, it's pronounced "A-Lawn" ... I was like, "That sounds retarded ... no wonder he's 46 and in my sophomore class" this was a couple years ago.

I would so name my kid Odin. I'd then instruct him to have two sons and name them Thor and Loki. And insure that Loki is a little bastard.



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Posted by French Toast on Mon Nov 21st at 10:49pm 2005


I like Sydney, go with that <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by satchmo on Mon Nov 21st at 11:32pm 2005


We like Sydney too. But it's also a gender-ambiguous name for some people. It's mostly a girl's name today.

I did propose to my wife in Australia, even though I did it in Melbourne.

I have a gender-ambiguous name myself, but it's not Pat. I like my name, even though others think I am a girl before meeting me.




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Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st at 11:39pm 2005


Why won't you say it if you like it so much? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">






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Posted by G4MER on Mon Nov 21st at 11:45pm 2005


I have 3 kids..

Connor. ( meaning - high Desire )

Shannon. ( meaning - small one, wise one )

Christian. ( meaning - anoited )

Reno I too carry a middle name that was a last name of my great grandfather, he had no sons, so it was passed down as a middle name to preserve his name. I passed on to my oldest son Connor.

the name is Reed.. if your wondering.

I love my youngest sons name.. Christain Aleczander.

My mom spelled my first name with an extra e.. I used ot get points off my paper work because teachers thought I was spelling it wrong. - Jefferey.

naw I would never name my kid after me.. I feel the same as you guy so far.

My best friend from Scotland named one of his two girls Brooklyn. I also know a Dakota.. and a Sundee..

I knew from the start what each of my kids names were gonna be.




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Posted by Myrk- on Mon Nov 21st at 11:54pm 2005


I'd always choose something that I myself would like to be called, but something interesting that reflects on me and whoever it may be wife. I've always thought of Phoebe being a wierd and cool name- not many people called that in the UK at all tbh.




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Posted by ReNo on Mon Nov 21st at 11:58pm 2005


My newest little cousin is called Liberty...which made all the rest of the family kind of awkwardly smile and squirm when it was announced <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> Libby is a nice enough shortening, but Liberty just didn't sit quite right with all that many folks. Even worse is the fact that the mother hates people using shortened names - she's quick to correct anybody who calls their eldest little girl Elizabeth anything but her full name, and I'm sure it's the same with Libby.

...I mean Liberty <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">






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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Nov 22nd at 12:10am 2005


Ew, liberty has such an american ring to it... hate to use something patriotic...


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Posted by fishy on Tue Nov 22nd at 12:10am 2005


i remember a news story from a few years ago, when a couple named their little girl 2la. i don't remember which one, but one of the parents said the name had come to them in a dream.




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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Nov 22nd at 12:12am 2005


I forsee barcode style names appearing in overpopulated areas in the future...


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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Nov 22nd at 12:22am 2005


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I'd always choose something that I myself would like to be called, but something interesting that reflects on me and whoever it may be wife. I've always thought of Phoebe being a wierd and cool name- not many people called that in the UK at all tbh.


Myrk-, every time I hear the name Phoebe I think of Holden's little sister in Catcher in the Rye.

And Rainer/Frenchy, your name is badass.

I don't know what I'd want to name my kids. It's not something I've put much thought into, although a couple of times I've heard a name I liked and tried to tuck it away in my mind for later, but of course, I've forgotten them all.

Satchmo, in case you are interested I have a Chinese name. Bo (2nd tone) Han (4th tone) Cheng (2nd tone). The meaning of which I've almost completely forgotten. I know that Bo is a phonetic shortening of my anglo surname, but the character means something, which I've forgotten (maybe tree, or strength or something). Han is the character for the Han people. Cheng, I think, is the character for continuation, or legacy. My Chinese grandparents gave me this name because even though I'm only half Chinese, I'm the only male in the family that can carry on their bloodline. That was a pretty crummy explanation, so I'll have to ask my gonggong and popo about the accurate definitions.




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Posted by Agent Smith on Tue Nov 22nd at 12:23am 2005


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For girls, we've chosen Sydney and Ashley. I know they're pretty common still, but they're not the most common ones.



Have you thought about naming your son Ashley. My name is Ashley and apart from the occaisional 'but thats a girls name' it goes down fine. It also shortens nicely to Ash. It comes highly recommended by me <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">.



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Nov 22nd at 12:26am 2005


There's a guy on my hall with the name Ashley. At first I thought it was a little strange, but I call him Ash all the time, and Ash is a pretty sweet nickname.

So yes, for a guy I think that's a good name. But for a girl... it seems too common. I'd vote for Sydney instead.




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Posted by ReNo on Tue Nov 22nd at 1:24am 2005


Ashley and Sydney are the two main characters in Vagrant Story, so you score bonus points <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Ash is a cool nickname too - potential nicknames are definately something that should be considered when choosing a name I reckon.







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