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Posted by wil5on on Thu Dec 8th at 10:45pm 2005

? quoting Underdog
Yesterday was December the 7th. Today is December 8th. I am betting something major happened today as well why not have a thread each and every day dedicated to events on that date?

Thats the point I was trying to make really.




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Posted by fishy on Thu Dec 8th at 10:46pm 2005

i wouldn't expect to find many places where it is celebrated....




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Posted by Underdog on Thu Dec 8th at 10:59pm 2005

? quoting fishy
i wouldn't expect to find many places where it is celebrated....

I was thinking the exact same thing but was looking for some hidden reason for that post.

I didn't really want to jump to the wrong conclusion since it would be making a sort of morgue humor.




There is no history until something happens, then there is.



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Posted by Foxpup on Fri Dec 9th at 1:29am 2005

It's been five years since the end of The Great Furry Flamewar. This calls for a celebration.


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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Dec 9th at 2:59am 2005

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I would say that in their own way Hiroshima and Pearl are about even. The Japanese civilians would have followed their Emperor unto death anyway so killing them then instead of waiting for them to be conscripted might have saved more lives in the end. Who knows?



The bomb was not dropped to prevent the civilians in Hiroshima from being conscripted but to intimidate Japan into a surrender. A protracted war/invasion was predicted to cost many American lives. The bottom line is that we used an atomic bomb on civilians where they used conventional bombs to attack a military base. I don't think they are even remotely even.




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Posted by Crono on Fri Dec 9th at 3:59am 2005

Everyone forgets about Nagasaki. You know the other place that got an A-Bomb dropped on them the same day.

I don't think they're even close to the same "atrocity" either. Seriously. Attacking Civilians is a terrible thing to do.

The only thing that's really happened to us that is even close is 9/11, however, that still wasn't a nuclear attack.

At least New York wasn't radiated for decades.

The only similarities I'll give Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima/Nagasaki is they were both done with tactical motives for winning the war.


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Posted by FatStrings on Fri Dec 9th at 4:05am 2005

yes but you forget, its terrorism if it's aimed at the USA




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Dec 9th at 5:10am 2005

.....now ask me why i stay the f**k off these threads anymore.......

peace....believe it, everyboy's ass smells.

Doc Brasso.....





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Posted by Andrei on Fri Dec 9th at 11:02am 2005

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yes but you forget, its terrorism if it's aimed at the USA


Yeah, I think it's pretty safe to say Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the greatest *ahem* terrorist attacks in the world.





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Posted by French Toast on Fri Dec 9th at 12:17pm 2005

Indeed, I believe that was his point, but he's just showing how the US looks at the attacks against them rather than how they attack others.




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Dec 9th at 2:09pm 2005

man o man....you arrogant little s**ts.......do your f**king homework, and as the man said, "ponder".....

wilson, out of all those little dates, which do you deem the most important, and influential?

it amazes me the irreverance being cultivated......few of you f**kers know yer ass from a bucket, and yet you still spout yer adolescent rhetoric as if it is factually based....bah. .....a waste of time, and breath.....

Doc B...





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Dec 9th at 2:21pm 2005

Does this apply to the posts made my Crono and myself? If not, I'd like to see them responded to.




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Dec 9th at 3:23pm 2005

atm, you and crono both have your own takes on "history", the motives behind events, stats, etc etc.....and thats all fine and well, and as it should be. just because i dont share the same "take" on it makes it my own opinion, nothing more. yes, i think it was wrong to drop the bombs....but look at it from a self preservation mode, an instinct engrained on us from the beginning. we gave a half million lives to save everyone elses ass, and we were tired of it....its no different in mindset than going to get yer daddy's gun to save yer bro's from an ass beating by a bully.

....and i suppose i should have been more clear, as i really was not hurling those statements at the two of you (and crono). a blanket statement was uncalled for. my apologies sir.

i suppose i could boil my thoughts down to this....war is war, unlike any other action on earth....humans are basicly dumber than s**t, arrogant, self serving, manipulative, coniving, sneaky, and without a doubt the most horribly twisted creatures on the planet.....bar none. the only ones to blatantly murder its own kind, on whatever level it is. war included. no reason needed. im old. ive seen this world go to s**t quickly, and it amazes me that we cant seem to pull our collective heads out of our asses. it disheartens me, because i know my kids are going to bear the brunt of our decisions. pandors'a box is open wide. history is recorded for the future to read, assimiliate, ponder, and hopefully to motivate them to not repeat our mistakes. but alas, it is inevitable, although it does not have to be.

Doc B...:dodgy:





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Posted by Crono on Fri Dec 9th at 8:29pm 2005

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Sometimes, it's really depressing to stop thinking about wars not as battle of the numbers. When you actually experience those events or are alive for them, your views change. For someone younger it's just something you read in a book. It isn't until a film or something like that shows what it was like that you really get a feel for it.

I don't know why though, we've all been alive through some war or another and we should have the ability to place what we see in our lives and apply it to what has happened in history to get an understanding.

I've thought about things that would make countries better, for people, and whenever I think about it I'm faced with the prospect that whatever I do will potentially be used to destroy other people. It's a very disturbing thing to think of. Being a computer scientist (soon), it's, sadly, something I have to deal with. Since some research I do could lead to the destruction of entire cities or cultures.

Thankfully nothing is that advanced in AI or the likes. But there are instances for example: what about a group who works on a problem to find the shortest distance from point A to point B in a city, like for driving ... that solution could be used for guiding missiles, or unmanned tanks. image

Part of what makes America a good place to live while making it America's greatest flaw is the power money has.The more potentially deadly problem you solve (for whatever company you work for), the more money you get paid.

Not that they have to tell you what you're really doing.

Sorry for the tangent. I do understand what you're saying, wise Brasso.


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Posted by Underdog on Fri Dec 9th at 8:38pm 2005

I mean this as respectfully as possible. No sarcasm or ill intent intended. This is the first post I have ever read by you Crono that made sense on a level that I can not only relate to, but understand from beginning to end.

I am saving it to my desk top for safe keeping. I now have hopes for you. Not that my opinion matters one iota, but I just knew that you were.... Well nevermind. I have now reevaluated my opinions.

This post will join the few I have respect for since my advent unto Snarkpitland.




There is no history until something happens, then there is.



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat Dec 10th at 12:26am 2005

* hands UD some Kleenex *

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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sat Dec 10th at 12:32am 2005

crono, i feel like i just caught a glimpse of your soul..... im impressed sir.... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> its good to see, and my respect for you just jumped tenfold...

Doc B...





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Posted by Underdog on Sat Dec 10th at 2:29am 2005

? quoting Addicted to Morphine
* hands UD some Kleenex *

Dammit, I told you last time Kleenex wasn't strong enough. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">

Actually, Doc said it better than I but my intention was similar to his.




There is no history until something happens, then there is.




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