Valve broke Hammer again
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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Dec 30th at 11:10pm 2005


What is this "normal" and "beta" sdk that you guys keep refering to? I've never heard any reference from Valve or anybody about two different versions...



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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Campaignjunkie on Fri Dec 30th at 11:17pm 2005


I reverted to the normal one and I get the same symptoms as G.Ball - I can only see the lightmap grid. Textures don't seem to load into the editor. But hey, at least I can do batch compiles again!...

... Too bad my maps keep crashing RAD.




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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Juim on Fri Dec 30th at 11:18pm 2005


Well the beta now seems to be the normal. No longer a beta. I dont know if there is a way to revert back to the old hammer now.



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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Loco on Fri Dec 30th at 11:20pm 2005


Valve have acknowledged the bug at last, so there should be a fix soon:
http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?a=viewthread&t=239,1135982806,24724&id=943982&b=4986&v=flatold

And G.Ball, Valve released a beta of the SDK a while ago - just add -beta sdk to the Steam shortcut and then run it... (if you dare...)






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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by fishy on Fri Dec 30th at 11:37pm 2005





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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by wil5on on Fri Dec 30th at 11:55pm 2005


I'm not getting the 84% thing, but I'm not seeing anything in my 3d window either. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">


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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Dr Brasso on Sat Dec 31st at 1:40am 2005


vrad is killing my efforts too CJ.....i cant for the life of me figure a temp fix either..... :/

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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Loco on Sat Dec 31st at 10:20am 2005


Apparently fixed:
http://www.chatbear.com/board.plm?a=viewthread&t=269,1136010314,16787&id=944111&b=4986&v=flatold






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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Dr Brasso on Sat Dec 31st at 6:11pm 2005


not quite....heres the result of the vrad error/crash ive beenyakkin about.....the writer of this code needs to be awarded the "fullbright" scholarship....****runs

Doc B...





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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by satchmo on Sat Dec 31st at 6:13pm 2005


Well, I guess we can still map...we just can't compile the maps until later.


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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by wil5on on Sun Jan 1st at 1:08am 2006


Source SDK started updating for me at around 94% a few hours ago. Now I get the "System cannot find the file specified" error when trying to run hammer/modelviewer. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">




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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by satchmo on Sun Jan 1st at 2:58am 2006


You just need to refresh the SDK content before running Hammer, and that error should go away.


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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by wil5on on Sun Jan 1st at 4:59am 2006


That seems to have helped. Hammer starts, and the 3D window works. I'll try compiling later to see if that's fixed yet.


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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by satchmo on Sun Jan 1st at 5:41am 2006


I am holding off compiling any maps until the coast is cleared.


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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Andrei on Sun Jan 1st at 12:36pm 2006


I'm running the normal SDK and have no problems compiling what-so-ever.




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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Juim on Sun Jan 1st at 2:14pm 2006


Just compiled B3 of my map and I think it looks good.Not only did it take almost 2 hours less to compile, but the FPS have doubled (or rather, returned to their original levels before all this HDR/beta crap). I think they have just rolled back to the original version for now. One problem I did notice was:

My original water texture is missing. I had to re-texture it so it would show up.





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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Dr Brasso-Kona- on Sun Jan 1st at 5:54pm 2006


nice screenie juim....i like the ambience.... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

something i noticed on my last compile after closer inspection....1 zero area child patch i had forgotten about, because it had never been an issue before with gameplay, or framerates, or anything....but i got to thinking, could that old "blemish" be opened by a rewrite of more specific vrad code, or some such phenom? plausible?...but not probable in my estimation.....but ive been wrong before.... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

Doc B...:dodgy:




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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jan 1st at 9:08pm 2006


You know, I wish I had enough bandwidth to compile these maps for you guys. I have not updated and I assume my hammer is still functional. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

To download and upload a map would take me ages.





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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by wil5on on Mon Jan 2nd at 12:58am 2006


I'm able to compile a small test map successfully. No reason to avoid it Satch, might as well use it while it still works. If anything does go wrong, I'm sure someone as meticulous as yourself has backups <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">


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Re: Valve broke Hammer again
Posted by satchmo on Mon Jan 2nd at 3:47am 2006


Thanks. I'll try to compile my map tonight.


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