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Posted by Crono on Thu Dec 29th at 4:41am 2005

X700 ~= 6800 GT

I like nvidia too. No particular reason why. I think it's mostly because I don't like fussing with drivers (this includes when used with Linux), and generally, (or used to be) the nvidia stuff was cheaper. Now they're about the same damn thing, it really comes down to the manufacturer you buy the card from.

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Posted by ReNo on Thu Dec 29th at 5:07am 2005

I've not heard it compared to that before Crono - more likely the 6600GT. The 6800GT was near enough nVidia's top of the range card from that generation, while the x700 was a mid-range card and one that, from what I read, rarely lived up to the nVidia competition. 6600GT was generally regarded as the best in its price point, though I think the arrival of the PCI-E exclusive ATI X800 GTO cards may have changed that. I haven't really been keeping tabs on the graphics card market since I picked up my most recent one though to be honest.




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Posted by Crono on Thu Dec 29th at 5:18am 2005

That's just what I read. Perhaps it did say 6600 GT, not sure. Whatever, people should do research for themselves anyway :P


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Posted by wil5on on Thu Dec 29th at 8:47am 2005

Given that the 6600 costs $50 more than the x700 at the place were getting this from, I think the x700 is a better deal. To go to a 6800, or x800 would mean going over $100 over budget.

Dont bother posting prices, I'm in Australia.




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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Dec 29th at 1:25pm 2005

? quoting wil5on
Given that the 6600 costs $50 more than the x700 at the place were getting this from,

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Also, unless there is a PCI-E version of the 6600 and 6800 you cannot really compare prices.

I have heard that the x700 has bugs/issues. It might do you some good to research the charts on the two Mr. Wil5on. There are some excellent google searches on things like "x700 vs. 6600"

Try some variation of that.





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Posted by Crono on Thu Dec 29th at 8:39pm 2005

Of course there are PCI-E versions of those cards, however, that doesn't really come into play here, since the card runs at the same speed on both slot types. The only time PCI-E become "faster", is when the card its self requires higher bandwidth, which is in the case of something like the 7800, or something like that. If there's an AGP version, it would generally run the same overall speed as the PCI-E counterpart.

Is that just another emerging myth now? Just because PCI-E (x16) is faster it's suppose to be all around better in every situation? :P


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Posted by wil5on on Fri Dec 30th at 12:55am 2005

I'm only looking at AGP cards. No real advantage in going to PCI-E, as Crono said.


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Posted by Biological Component on Fri Dec 30th at 3:28am 2005

Once you go 64, you never go back <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">



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Posted by Crono on Fri Dec 30th at 3:35am 2005

I've found it quite hard to find a decent board that supports AMD 64 and AGP. Either that or they're expensive as all hell.

Not to mention, here at least, AGP cards are starting to cost more than their PCI-E friends. Talk about phasing stuff out, they did the same thing to slow ram. PC133 costs an arm and a leg. It is kind of nice when upgrading is cheaper than expanding, though.

However, if the AGP board is what you've got already, funk it. No need to upgrade it'd cost you more in the long run anyway. (You just may upgrade sooner than expected is all, but not likely)


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Posted by French Toast on Fri Dec 30th at 4:41am 2005

I have 64 bit on my new laptop, so... yeah.




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Posted by ReNo on Fri Dec 30th at 1:57pm 2005

Good AGP cards are becoming impossible to get in the UK lately I've found, so I would never recommend buying an AGP motherboard anymore. That said, you aren't really getting anything out of the PCI-E interface unless you are going with an SLI setup, so it's going the PCI-E route is becoming a necessity with no real benefit for many people at the moment.

I bought an AGP 6800GT in a sale for an incredible ?160, but unfortunately it developed a fault and I had to send for a replacement. Sad news is, they didn't have and couldnt get any more of the card, so instead they gave me a refund of the ?160. Looking around for a replacement, I could barely FIND any 6800GT's in AGP, let alone any going for a reasonable price (ie. under ?230 or so). In the end I settled for a 6800 standard, which serves me perfectly well and all but wasn't much cheaper than the 6800GT I had bought <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> Taking a quick look around just now, it seems matters are even worse - Overclockers, who normally stock more graphics cards than anybody, have only one card in the whole 6800 range for AGP, and only a couple in the 6600 range. People still looking to snag one last upgrade out of their AGP motherboards really need to get their skates on before the decent cards disappear entirely!




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Jan 1st at 8:47pm 2006

You know Duncan, the postal service does work over-seas. I have sent, and received postage in that fashion before. You might consider finding someone here that you trust and getting your card sent to you.

Just a thought. Baring mishaps, like the one you already experienced, you could do well by getting a card here.

Bulk rate postage is very cheap. Slow as hell, but cheap.





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Posted by ReNo on Mon Jan 2nd at 2:25am 2006

Too late now mate, I've already picked one up unfortunately, but I may consider it in the future <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by fishy on Mon Jan 2nd at 7:54pm 2006

tbh, sli doesn't look too impressive to me. maybe i need to see more comparative test results, but the ones that i've seen seem to indicate that a single next generation card will perform better than two of it's predecessors in an sli setup. like the 7800 will perform better than two 6800's linked.




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