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Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Jan 6th at 3:14pm 2006


pat robertson.....what a s**thead....fanatic, spewer of hyperfanatical bulls**t, and all around "nobody is right but me" twit....his form of religion should be outlawed, imho....rationalizing this mans condition this way, no matter what hes done, as "god's wrath" is not only ridiculous, but irresponsible.....this is the kind of s**t that really gives religion a bad name.....as if it needed any more help.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10728347/

comments, or am i the only one that sees the folly of this turds endeavours?

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Posted by Gwil on Fri Jan 6th at 3:53pm 2006


It's bad, but I can't say i'm entirely surprised by it. Theres various sources from both sides of the conflict in Israel saying it's Gods will. It's just this particular person has a bigger stage to say it from.

Religion eh, funny old business..




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Fri Jan 6th at 4:08pm 2006


Gwilliam, it just goes against everything ive ever learned about the idea of an omnipotent, benevolent god. you know my views on religion man, but again, in my humble opinion, this guy is as fanatical as any muslim extremist nutbag, but hes just too damn old to toss a real grenade....

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Posted by fishy on Fri Jan 6th at 4:33pm 2006


i remember reading an (possible) explaination of one of the old testament prophecies, and it centered on Sharron. it was something to do with Israel bending her knee, but the interpreter was convinced that the grammer/words/whatever that are used in scripture related more to a damaging type bend, like cracking a branch, without it dying.

the interpreter also strongly believed that the knee in question was Sharron, again, something to do with how the text was written, and a claim that the root word of the name Sharron is derived from the word 'knee'.

the upshot was, the interpreter didn't know whether to believe that Sharron would bend his knee to the non-israeli world, or if he would be subject to some sort of breaking at the hands of the big guy. seems like he didn't need to hedge his bets after all.




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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Fri Jan 6th at 4:46pm 2006


NFN. :P I should know, I live in the english version.






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Posted by French Toast on Fri Jan 6th at 5:13pm 2006


I do'nt get it. God gets unhappy when Israeli's divy up land, but nobody else?

I'm not getting something here. Who is Sharron?




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Posted by fishy on Fri Jan 6th at 5:23pm 2006


? quoting French Toast
I'm not getting something here. Who is Sharron?

some guy from the middle east




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Posted by Captain P on Fri Jan 6th at 5:27pm 2006


It's true that this land belongs to the Israeli and that finally, they will get their promised land, but to say Sharon gets punished for giving away land... I think that's just weird. That guy seems to pretend he knows how every profecy will play out, which you often can only say afterwards.

And to rationalize disease by saying somebody must have sinned... then that guy didn't read his bible too well... Jesus healed people and told them not to sin again, he didn't point out their sins and walked away.
So much for 'christian' broadcaster imho.






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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Jan 6th at 5:47pm 2006


That's just coldhearted ignorance.




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Posted by G.Ballblue on Fri Jan 6th at 6:00pm 2006


Quite the poor thing to say on TV -- even as a Catholic myself, what this guy said was out of line.

The Bible has stories in which in a way, "show God's wrath" and I suppose are one of the things that people wonder about. Since God is an all loving God, then why (an example:) would he destory an entire city? It all deals with the concept of sin -- to an extent. I'm not the one to ask about interprepting the bible, and I feel relatively uncomfortable discuing topics in it -- mainly because I'm afraid of mis-interpretation of my views, or what other Catholics or people of other religions would say.

Firstly though, God wouldn't strike someone down for "dividing up his land." Yes, Israel is the "promised land" to the Jews, (I'm trying to remember these thigns off the top of my head, so bare with me) but things have happened to Judea/Israel in history, and not once did God techincally strike down a "specific" person. Firstly, time plays itself out, and God is all knowing, so anything did actually happen to Israel or "God's land" as to how it's being refered to in this case, God would let things play out since God would know things would eventually recover. Another reason for God not "striking down" Shannon, for one, allowing us to have freel and choose to sin or not, and second, God doesn't intervine with our lives very often. I believe the current time is refered to as "God has grown silent" in the sense that he does not intervine, unlike the time of Christ or before Him, where his inteventions were more abundant.

Anyways, discuss this if you feel I've pointed something out wrong -- I don't have a bible sitting in front of me, and I'm working with things that I'm trying to remember




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Posted by Crono on Fri Jan 6th at 10:03pm 2006


Not as bad as what he said August last year, that the U.S. should assassinate Venezuela's president Hugo Chavez. more info

Ariel Sharon is the Israeli Prime Minister. Since people don't seem to know who he is.

Now, the only thing I've never understood with some people's view is ... how can you believe in something like free will ... then the wrath of God ... before you die ... Doesn't that defeat the purpose of free will? I know Pat Roberts is a douche, but there are people who listen to him and I'm sure there's many who think many things that happen are punishment from God, so I'm just curious how this is explained.



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Posted by Captain P on Fri Jan 6th at 11:12pm 2006


No, within the rules a free will has space to move. But you can't see if someone loves you or cares for you if he or she doesn't have a free will.

God doesn't punish immediatly in these times though. My friend has cancer right now. But he's been a christian for years now and lived 'better' (or however you want to call it that) than a lot of others I know. Guess what? Time and fortune catches everyone. I believe such things are a result of the sin humanity lives in rather than the sins of a person himself. Earth was cursed after Adam and Eva took from the forbidden fruit, and that's what we often see, the results of the curse of sin.
God punishes afterwards, but gives us the chance to make it up to Him while we still live. He wants to restore our lives from this curse and give us a purpose, He's really good once you get to know Him better. God is a loving God, we've got our whole lifetime to accept that His son Jesus died for our sins, but if people reject Him, He will judge them for their sins.

Of course, there's many points of view on christianity, I can only advise you to read the Bible yourself and find out about Gods rescue plan for us. The main thing is to get to know God, not dumbly follow a certain doctrine or a set of rules. Which happens way too much these days, with or without a religious paint...






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Posted by Andrei on Sat Jan 7th at 9:20am 2006


? quote:
punishment from God


Some people think that reserchers shouldn't look for a cure for [insert terminal disease here] because if God wanted the people who contract the disease to live, He wouldn't have given them the disease in the first place. People who think like this should receive a buckshot injection in the anus. smiley





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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jan 7th at 11:10am 2006


Oooooh, something some guy said on Radio 2 which made me laugh and should stir this up-

Do you worship god for fear of his wrath and going to hell? If you are a good man because of God then surely you are a worse man than he who is good when not believing in god, because he is not being good for himself- he isn't sellfish.

I find this also funny, because when people say they don't believe in god, 9/10 people say "your going to hell"...

Funny eh? Religion is filled with loop holes and problems. Hence I'm not religious. Also in the bible he pretty much forgives everything except suicide- so if this Heaven exists, expect to see Sadam, Stalin, and Hitler there To me, religion is just like the tooth fairy, or santa- theres morals and issues there, yes, but its just made up- theres nothing to suggest otherwise.




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Posted by Andrei on Sat Jan 7th at 12:06pm 2006


Here we have the expression " a man with fear of God ", which refers to a man who hasn't committed any sins. Idd, being a good man only because you're afraid of retribution should be just as wrong as doing bad.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 7th at 12:17pm 2006


Snarkpit should begin its own religion. We seem assured that we know all the mistakes other religions make so we should have no real trouble creating one error free.

Now, all we need to do is find a coder to make the damned thing and we're all set.





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Posted by wil5on on Sat Jan 7th at 12:37pm 2006


? quoting Orpheus
Now, all we need to do is find a coder to make the damned thing and we're all set.

Dont worry Orph, not all your jokes are lost on us young 'uns. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/rofl.gif">




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sat Jan 7th at 8:25pm 2006


lets call it...

All Follow Al... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">

.......sho nuff always wanted to be impo'tent, and have people send me their hard earned dollars for keeping them outta helll....wewt!!!....

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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 7th at 8:34pm 2006


In the beginning, there was darkness and Al said unto the darkness, "LET THERE BE SNARKPIT" and there was Snarkpit. And it was good. Then Al said "Send me some bucks and we'll think about the next day." <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">



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Posted by fishy on Sat Jan 7th at 9:44pm 2006


and Al said , "Let there be light". But valve had been tampering with HDR, and the engine was gubbed again, so he had a beer instead.


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