Routing woes.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 21st at 1:49pm 2006


Recently I bought a replacement router since my old one broke shortly before I moved.

My question is 2 fold.

  • Since I no longer have broadband was that a poor choice? Should I have bought a HUB instead?
  • Why can I not get my router to talk to my 2 computers without the broadband? No matter how I set it up, they cannot seem to see each other.

I do like an occasional HL2 LAN game and am dying to play CIV 4 with my son.





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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jan 21st at 2:02pm 2006


Check the manual? Thats all I could say really.


-[Better to be Honest than Kind]-



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 21st at 2:04pm 2006


*sighs*

I was afraid you'd/someone'd say that. I did. I musta missed something.

I fear that it needs broadband to activate a switch or some s**t.





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sat Jan 21st at 2:09pm 2006


jp5 plugs?....thats for nic cards/broadband isnt it big jon?...**sigh

ya might have to use a hub with the 56k modem....been so long i cant remember man....sorry.

Doc B...:dodgy:





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Posted by OtZman on Sat Jan 21st at 2:29pm 2006


Aren't there cables that you can use to connect computer to computer without a switch/hub? Two way cables?






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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 21st at 2:43pm 2006


? quoting OtZman
Aren't there cables that you can use to connect computer to computer without a switch/hub? Two way cables?

Yes there is, and luckily I have a crossover cable. Unfortunately, it is in storage with all the rest of my less essential computer parts. I forgot to keep it out when I packed.

Now, I think my problem lies with the 56k s**t. The modem uses a port, and the IPX cards use another sort. I think my PC is getting confused because it is primarily setup for internet use via the 56k.

My PC acknowledges the router. I can talk to it via the admin function. I cannot get it to talk to both pc's to LAN.

I am unsure why. I am skilled enough because I had my last router setup for DSL and I did the work making it so. I am just confused because now I seem to be less skilled.





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Posted by fraggard on Sat Jan 21st at 2:43pm 2006


The two comps should be able to see each other without a net connection, in any case. What router is it?




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 21st at 2:51pm 2006


? quoting fraggard
The two comps should be able to see each other without a net connection, in any case.

As I thought, till recently.

? quoting fraggard
What router is it?

This one.





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Posted by fraggard on Sat Jan 21st at 3:02pm 2006


OK, let's see. Since crono's not here, i'll pretend that I know what I'm talking about. Forget the net connection.

A hub and router are completely different things... A hub basically takes frames from one of the ports and sends it to ALL the other ports. It's up to the receiver to discard what he doesn't want. A router takes packets from one port, reads them, and then sends it only to the correct destination port. Anything a hub can do, a router can do better.

Try this:
1)Do both machines have valid IPs?
2)Can you ping one from the other?




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 21st at 3:12pm 2006


? quoting fraggard

Try this:
1)Do both machines have valid IPs?
2)Can you ping one from the other?

1) dunno
2) dunno

What I have done, and can do:

1) each PC can talk to the router. If I go into admin I can set the individual params well enough.
2) I have used both PC's before to talk to the net, albeit with DSL so I am confident they are functioning.
3) My wires work, since I can talk to the router. Same can be said for the IPX cards.
4) Only this PC talks to the net currently since I have 56k and only one machine can talk to the net at any given time it didn't seem prudent to set up both with a 56k modem.
5) I have even opened all the ports via the DMZ in the hopes of getting the machines to converse. Since the router will not see the net with the 56k, opening them was not a concern to a hacking.

I think that about sums up my current position. Does that help?





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Posted by fraggard on Sat Jan 21st at 3:21pm 2006


On both machines, do this:
Open a DOS command window
Run ipconfig
Note the IP address, if any.

Then go to each machine, and try to ping the other machine's IP

e.g. ping 192.168.1.25

See what happens.






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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Jan 21st at 3:47pm 2006


? quoting fraggard
On both machines, do this:
Open a DOS command window
Run ipconfig
Note the IP address, if any.

Then go to each machine, and try to ping the other machine's IP

e.g. ping 192.168.1.25

See what happens.


Cool, will soonish. Gotta run to market now. Will let you know.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by FatStrings on Mon Jan 23rd at 3:03am 2006


i had problems with my 56k try deleting it and reconfigure your dial up but tell it not to be the primary connection





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