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Posted by ct44 on Thu Jan 26th at 10:08pm 2006

Ive made a lot of maps for HL deathmatch and a few for sven - coop, but im lacking feedback, is this due to having a low snarkmark count or is it the fact that my maps may not appeal to everyone since HL1 is old. (3rdly could my maps be bad)?

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Posted by French Toast on Thu Jan 26th at 10:09pm 2006

Nobody cares about Snarkmarks.




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Posted by ct44 on Thu Jan 26th at 10:11pm 2006

, so your saying snarkmars hold no bearing over who is cool or good at mapping




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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Thu Jan 26th at 10:23pm 2006

no they really don't.

They are mostly a sign of who's been here longest I guess.


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Posted by Kasc1990 on Thu Jan 26th at 10:41pm 2006

Snark marks don't really show you as a person, just how long you have been on the forum along with your activness.

So don't worry, ill give seem feedback for them now.




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Jan 26th at 10:42pm 2006

actually, snarkmarks dont even show that, as mine have retarted with nearly each version update of the ole' Leperous code... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">

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Posted by Captain P on Thu Jan 26th at 11:10pm 2006

Snarkmarks don't say much, except for who's being active and who's been here for a long time.

HL is indeed old, though there's still people mapping for it. Just not so much here. Also, you'll need to draw some attention to your maps. One way is to comment on other maps, so you draw attention to yourself and to your maps. You may also get some friends in the community, which is a great thing as you can learn a lot (and spam forums, of course <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">).

And maybe your maps aren't great... but you can still get feedback if you're actively looking and asking for it. See it as selling a product.
Also, to improve, you can look at the maps from others, and see what people liked about them and what they didn't like.



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Posted by Kain on Thu Jan 26th at 11:45pm 2006

Hi there!

While the exact formula that calculates the number of snarkmarks still remains a secret (only known by the dark owner Lep), it has to do with how much you are being HELPFUL on these forums: I've noticed that people who give useful advices on the map editing forums get a lot of these snarkmarks. I've been here for a few years now, and I've never hepled anyone with an editing question (cause I usually hang around the general section), and my snark-quote is still as low as ever....

Anyway, who cares about snarkmarks?... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">





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Posted by ReNo on Fri Jan 27th at 12:02am 2006

I do....but only because I've nearly got the most :P




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Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Jan 27th at 12:04am 2006

What are these snarkmarks that you speak of?

But seriously, those dont tell you what type of mapper you are. Just how active you are. Write some tutorials, they tend to rake in the marks. But still wont mean your any more UBER than anyone. We are all the same here.



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Posted by Gwil on Fri Jan 27th at 12:48am 2006

Listen to Kain, he has it right -

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While the exact formula that calculates the number of snarkmarks still remains a secret (only known by the dark owner Lep), it has to do with how much you are being HELPFUL on these forums: I've noticed that people who give useful advices on the map editing forums get a lot of these snarkmarks. I've been here for a few years now, and I've never hepled anyone with an editing question (cause I usually hang around the general section), and my snark-quote is still as low as ever....



I love these misinformed posts on what snarkmarks are.

Most points will come from tutorials, tutorial ratings and general interaction with the community on a "deeper" level.

They don't mean too much, but kudos if you have a lot - it means you GIVE a lot to the community in terms of answers on the editing forum, tutorials etc.






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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Jan 27th at 1:15am 2006

Leperous posted this regarding Snarkmarks in a thread from the 15th of January 2004:

? quoting Leperous:

Hiding it keeps people from bitching about it, usually, they just 'went down' as they're recalculated when you login or check your CP and I probably changed the formula since then Buuuut if you must know, make of this what you will:

SM = ceil((40*tutaverage*tuts) + (5*answeredqs) + ((posts+(5*topics)+(2*comments))*(userrating/5)) + ((mapratingaverage+1)*5*noofmaps) + (mapdownloads/5) + (profilehits/5))

So you can get quite a lot from writing lots of good tutorials and uploading lots of good maps, among other things


As for your maps, I think most people haven't commented because it seems like you were just uploading them for cataloguing purposes. Usually, people come here requesting feedback for maps in progress.

If I were you, I'd start work on a new HL1 map, and then come here once you've got part of it done and create a new thread in the maps forum asking for comments and help in improving what you have.





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Fri Jan 27th at 3:22am 2006

Yeah, tutorials do it big time. That's where I got most of mine, and I've only written two or three.... But as others say, they don't mean much.





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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Jan 27th at 4:50am 2006

I am just very 1337. lol

No, I wrote some tuts and posted a lot.




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Posted by wil5on on Fri Jan 27th at 5:10am 2006

I submitted a whole ton of maps, and now I just sit back and answer the occasional editing question. I'd write some tuts if I ever got off my ass.


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Posted by FatStrings on Sat Jan 28th at 4:43am 2006

actually i don't even have half-life at all at this moment and have never made a map once, but o well




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Posted by Dred_furst on Sat Jan 28th at 11:08am 2006

Im just oldskool,

I must admit my snarkmarks went down due to my rating after the whole purposly bad map incident. oh well, i still posted a lot and all that.


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Posted by BlisTer on Sat Jan 28th at 5:19pm 2006

? quoting omegaslayer

those dont tell you what type of mapper you are. Just how active you are.

amen to that. As Kain and Gwil said, they're an indication to how helpful you are, so in that way they're great. But due to the many inputs, you can't really tell what aspect the person excels in.

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...((posts+(5*topics...

and here lies the problem: basicly you can spam the living hell out of the forum to increase your snarkmarks.

So i judge people on their mapping profile instead.




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Posted by OtZman on Sat Jan 28th at 5:49pm 2006

Don't think you get one SM for every post any more. I think you used to, but now you don't. You get for new topics and posting in the editing forums, I think, and for posting correct answeres.
I got about 600 SMs for my tutorial.



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Posted by French Toast on Sat Jan 28th at 6:41pm 2006

You definitely don't get 1 SM per post. I have 1000+ posts and this many SMs. I don't really map, so I can't get any that way. But you know.. who cares.





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