Disclaimer: For the newer folks here abouts I would like to clarify my views and position as in reference to this happy site known collectively as "The Snarkpit"

I support the owner and administrative staff 100% in all aspects were the set rules and guidelines are concerned. I may not agree with some/many/a few of them, but I do respect them. I may try, with time, to alter them to be more broad in scope, but I will not actively show disdain for them. I may oppose any owner or admin in a subject, but not where it clashes with a rule. The sanctity of this site is paramount. Since I was a part of its current state, it would look odd to publicly disdain what I helped to enact.

Since this topic has finally cooled off a bit, I think now would be a good time to have my say:

Well Master Dave, since you and I have been friends since LONG before there was even a Snarkpit, I can only assume that your post was rhetorically based. You are perfectly aware of my thoughts on copy rights.

Lets assume for the sake of argument that making a backup of any DVD is wrong. Since there is nearly the exact same law applied to music, specifically songs, then by that thinking, making a copy/backup of a song is wrong as well. Anyone who sees any distinction between DVDs and MP3's is only fooling themselves. If one's thinking is:

a) Making a song into an MP3 is OK because you are only listening to it through your player for your own personal pleasure. How is that any different than viewing a movie using your own player?
b) Making an MP3 is more accepted because, MP3 players were specifically designed to PLAY THEM! Well I hate to say this, any DVD player will play any backup, assuming you use the proper blanks so, that still doesn't hold up.
c) That more people use MP3's than backed up DVDs? I doubt it but how does that make it more/less right/wrong?
d) That some songs are specifically SOLD in MP3 format. I can see this as a viable excuse but only in so far as you actually bought it pre converted into the format. If for any reason you actually converted a music CD into MP3, you are doing the exact same thing as anyone making a backup of ANY COPY RIGHTED MATERIAL!

Anyway, thats how I see it. So, if this thread truly is to define what IS ALLOWED to be posted here, and what IS NOT, then if we accept DVD backup as not allowed, then by association we are saying that anything in reference to making MP3's from music disks as same.

/ my point.