Personally, I really like Valve and all the games they've
produced. I trust them to continue to support their products and
I trust them to produce high quality products in the future.
But the question of whether or not they are greedy... I guess it just comes down to personal world view.
Re: Episodic content
Posted by fraggard on Thu Feb 16th at 2:07pm 2006
No offence doc, but it seems to me that you've already made up your mind that VALVe is "good" and it's going to take something really serious to change that.
I was of the same mindset, but that "really serious" thing for me was Steam. Much as I like their games, I do not want them in control of the entire game experience (for lack of a better word). Steam is buggy, intrusive and absolute hell for people without unlimited bandwidth. I don't trust them to continue supporting any of my games, and I don't even trust them to continue the Steam system.
That's because they'll do whatever's needed to maximize their profits, and that doesn't always suit me.
Of course, it's obvious that very few people think like I do, because their profits keep soaring. But that doesn't change the fact that they aren't very good, or very "trust"able.

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Posted by fraggard on Thu Feb 16th at 2:07pm 2006
? quote:
That isn't what matters though, I trust Valve becuase I dont see any
evidence not to trust them, and support them. I guess its just a
matter of your own trust and point of view.
No offence doc, but it seems to me that you've already made up your mind that VALVe is "good" and it's going to take something really serious to change that.
I was of the same mindset, but that "really serious" thing for me was Steam. Much as I like their games, I do not want them in control of the entire game experience (for lack of a better word). Steam is buggy, intrusive and absolute hell for people without unlimited bandwidth. I don't trust them to continue supporting any of my games, and I don't even trust them to continue the Steam system.
That's because they'll do whatever's needed to maximize their profits, and that doesn't always suit me.
Of course, it's obvious that very few people think like I do, because their profits keep soaring. But that doesn't change the fact that they aren't very good, or very "trust"able.
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Re: Episodic content
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Feb 16th at 5:26pm 2006
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Feb 16th at 5:26pm 2006
Yeah -- I like Steam because since it's been around I've had unlimited
fast-speed internet. If I were on 56k or had limited monthly
bandwith, I would have a drastically different prespective.
Re: Episodic content
Posted by DrGlass on Thu Feb 16th at 5:57pm 2006
I feel the same way.
But even if I did feel diffrently about steam, I would be more upset with valves lack of support for those of us with limited resources. Even so, that doesn't seem greedy to me... steam is just built for that kind of enviroment.
If they had 3rd party adds on steam (like AIM, MSN, etc.) or tracking/spyware then I would question them. I didn't just on the trust train the moment I got my first valve game, its been 6 years and they have built trust with me as I have with them. but like we all seem to agree on, its just your personal experience.

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Posted by DrGlass on Thu Feb 16th at 5:57pm 2006
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Yeah -- I like Steam because since it's been around I've had unlimited
fast-speed internet. If I were on 56k or had limited monthly
bandwith, I would have a drastically different prespective.
I feel the same way.
But even if I did feel diffrently about steam, I would be more upset with valves lack of support for those of us with limited resources. Even so, that doesn't seem greedy to me... steam is just built for that kind of enviroment.
If they had 3rd party adds on steam (like AIM, MSN, etc.) or tracking/spyware then I would question them. I didn't just on the trust train the moment I got my first valve game, its been 6 years and they have built trust with me as I have with them. but like we all seem to agree on, its just your personal experience.
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