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Posted by Spartan on Mon Feb 27th at 5:17pm 2006

I was going to create a new thread but since I'm asking a questions I'll ask it here.

How do I tell if a video card supports HDR?

Also.... Why do we capitilize the first letter of the first word of each sentence? We use periods to end a sentence.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Feb 27th at 5:37pm 2006

We put a period becuse it was a roman thing. The period was called a "point" and it meant "That's all" pretty much. It also helps us recognise that it is a declarative sentence instead of interrogative or exclamatory. The capitalizing is probably just a way to signify the start of a sentence. Especially those that don't have a period or another sentence preceding it.


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Posted by ReNo on Mon Feb 27th at 6:12pm 2006

A video card doesn't support HDR per-se; it depends on how the game implements HDR whether a given card can use it. I'd guess that any card that supports SM3.0 will run any current implementations of HDR in games, as that is the highest current generation shader model and as such you can't really have a game using features that such a card wouldn't support. Some older cards that only support SM2.0 or lower may work with some game's implementations of HDR, and may not with others, depending if their implementation requires SM3.0 features. The same can be said for just about any graphical feature in games these days - almost all of them are based around shaders, and as such it depends on the shader support on your card as to whether you can use the effects or not.



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Posted by Spartan on Mon Feb 27th at 6:50pm 2006

Yo thanks Reno. The card I'm getting does have shader model 3.0 so I should get to play my games with HDR. YAY!

P.S. The card is a BFG Geforce 6200 OC 256mb PCI




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Posted by ReNo on Mon Feb 27th at 7:20pm 2006

I wouldn't bet on getting HDR running with decent performance on that Spartan - the 6200 is a pretty low level card - though it should support it. I'd also say that the 256mb of VRAM that has on it is wasted on it, given its slow speeds. You'd be better getting a 6600GT or one of the 6800 models, even if it only had 128mb of VRAM. If you haven't ordered the card yet, then I'm sure either myself or others could help you pick out something better without spending much more.



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Posted by Myrk- on Mon Feb 27th at 7:24pm 2006

? quoting Myrk-
#2

How does self cleaning glass work?

Found out it has an organic layer which eats anything that lays on it for ages.




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Posted by Spartan on Mon Feb 27th at 8:19pm 2006

Unfortunatly Reno my motherboard only has PCI slots. So it's either this card or the Geforce FX5700 LE. Which do you recommend?

P.S. I don't plan on playing with HDR, I just want to use it so when I take screenshots of maps it looks much nicer. I plan to get back into mapping.




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Posted by ReNo on Mon Feb 27th at 8:38pm 2006

Ooooh, I thought you had meant PCI-E, but if it's just plain PCI then I guess that limits you a whole lot. I haven't looked into what is available for PCI in a long long time, but it does seem likely that the 6200 is quite possibly your best option.



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Posted by Crono on Mon Feb 27th at 9:00pm 2006

What's the point of upgrading pointlessly on a limited board? It'll run slow simply because there isn't a separate BUS between the graphics and chipset.

I'd strongly suggest spending as little money as possible to suffice for now then upgrade in a little while. That and don't buy pre-build machines from those terrible companies. Which is pretty much the only way you'd have no AGP slot on a current machine (blasted built in video will not suffice!)

That's just a suggestion, but you're just throwing money away to upgrade the machine you already have. At least if you built a computer when you're done you could sell it, since it'd still have impressive specs.


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Posted by Spartan on Mon Feb 27th at 10:26pm 2006

Yes I know. I didn't want the Dell but it's something my dad bought so it's still better than having no computer.

Do you think I'll be able to play Doom 3?

Celeron D 2.53ghz
1gb RAM
BFG Geforce 6200 OC 256mb PCI




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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Feb 27th at 10:31pm 2006

? quoting Spartan
Yes I know. I didn't want the Dell but it's something my dad bought so it's still better than having no computer.

Do you think I'll be able to play Doom 3?

Celeron D 2.53ghz
1gb RAM
BFG Geforce 6200 OC 256mb PCI

No. I think not but, only because of the card. Course, there could be an ultra low setting.

I have a 3500+ amd @ 2.2ghz and 512 ram with a 9800 pro 256 agp 8X and mine grunted.. Slightly.





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Posted by Crono on Tue Feb 28th at 1:42am 2006

Yes, of course you can play D3, it might be able to go up to medium, especially if you adjust the apature size in bios (if you can) I've seen it run on lower specs. It still looks good, amazingly enough.

I mean, the only big bottleneck of those specs is the SouthBridge bus (which is what the PCI slots have to go through). You've got a decent amount of ram and all that jazz, maybe the speed and space on the Video card its self will make up for it?

Also, you should keep in mind that a lot of Dell machines (not all) are micro-atx and may require half-height cards ... which means you'd have to leave the side of the computer off to use a normal card. :/


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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Feb 28th at 4:13am 2006

Oh, and for those of you who have been following this thread, I told the girl how I feel. And I'll let u know what the heck happens.


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Posted by Gaara on Tue Feb 28th at 9:46am 2006

? quoting Andrei
You know, some people actually believe some of the bulls**t I presented in my theory. The church of Scientology (repeat the name a couple of times until the implications of having a "church" of "science" settle in) actually believe that the ruler of some foreign galaxy had the members of another intelligent race all put aboard starships which resembled (human passenger) planes with rocket engines

? quote:
The Douglas DC-8, said to be an exact copy of Xenu's [evil space ruler] spaceships, seats a maximum of 250 people and has a payload of only around 40?50,000 kg, depending on the specific model.




and had them dumped into the volcanoes in Hawaii (according to one version of the story; a different version states that they we're blown-up by hydrogen bombs), and then ordered that their souls be sucked up by special ships. But some of the souls escaped and inhabited the existing creatures on earth. I'm not kidding here, they really believe this stuff.
The founder of this religion is L. Ron Hubbard, a SF novel writer, of all things. And a very poor one, judging by the premise of his "religion".

Here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

Younger viewers do not read the next line

HOLY f**kING s**t THEY BELIEVE THAT?!?!




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Posted by DrGlass on Tue Feb 28th at 9:58am 2006

Is it really all that diffrent from anything else we believe on faith?

seems to me that if enough people are behind something facts almost create themselves (note: rumors and gossip). Ask some one with religious veiws about Easter, I'll gess they will say something like: "oh it celebrates the reserection of J.C."

truth and fact dont really need to be tied at the hip.




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Posted by Gaara on Tue Feb 28th at 10:12am 2006

? quoting DrGlass
Is it really all that diffrent from anything else we believe on faith?

seems to me that if enough people are behind something facts almost create themselves (note: rumors and gossip). Ask some one with religious veiws about Easter, I'll gess they will say something like: "oh it celebrates the reserection of J.C."

truth and fact dont really need to be tied at the hip.

I know that some religions which I didn't mention (for non-offensive purposes) have nearly as crazy "truths" but people get brought up by their parents believing that stuff so I can understand why they believe it so but scientology being fairly new and not many people having been brought up on it, how on earth do people read this stuff and choose to believe it at an age where they can make a religious decision?

Also I just saw the "Artists Rendition" of Xenu's "space planes". I haven't laughed so hard in a long time.




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Posted by Andrei on Tue Feb 28th at 10:34am 2006

How did humans copy that plane 75 million years later exactly? Someone didn't think Xenu's story through at all (the story is worse than a child's attempts at writing SF novels). If you willingly decide to believe in such crap, then you've got serious mental issues. Scientology is most likely a sort of business, though.



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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Feb 28th at 3:36pm 2006

Most people will beleive what they're told until a certain point, when they become more liberated by college or some such thing. Then they become Liberals. Not the good kind of liberal that actually KNOWS what they beleive, but the bad kind that gives all the others a bad name. They become the kind that does the exact opposite of what thier parents would do, just because they CAN now. That is how crap like Scientology gets started: somebody doesn't like the olde establishment, but they dontknow what they want in its stead, so they make up some c**kamamie crap and do all kinds of crazy stuff.


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Posted by DrGlass on Tue Feb 28th at 9:36pm 2006

I think South Park hit the nail on the head when it comes to Scientology.

I think we underestimate humanity and the quest to answer questions that can only (imo) be found on your own. I suppose that for some, evil space lords and DC-8 space ships are just an easy answer.




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Posted by Foxpup on Wed Mar 1st at 9:59am 2006

I have a few questions:

#1: If water's transparent, why do things get darker when they get wet?
#2: Why is it that when you close your eyes and press your eyelids you see these weird circle things?
#3: Is it physically possible to finish Namco Dirt Dash (1995)?


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