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Re: Flash animation
Posted by half-dude on Wed Mar 1st at 11:33pm 2006


Hello guys,

It would be a big help if you guys could tell me what program to use to make flash cartoons or if there are any other good programs besides flash that I should use. Im not sure if there is more then one program, if so which is easiest to use.

Another question is this, are there any good tutorials on how to make flash cartoons?

Examples of videos would be like this one:

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/ultimate+showdown/#start




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Crono on Wed Mar 1st at 11:52pm 2006


Um ... Macromedia Flash ... pretty much it.

If you get the program there is an entire library of tutorials within the program. A plethora of knowledge just waiting to be tapped ... that and it's all hands on example learning.

That and you can always search google, but at least the tutorials in Flash will teach you the basics of everything.

You can buy it pretty much anywhere ... I'd suggest just buying flash, not any of the other stuff, like DreamWeaver, since you can do that 10 times as effeciently by hand.

Official Site
Trial Download for Flash 8 Pro
Purchase Flash 8 Pro

There are also some tutorials on that first link.

Anything else?



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Re: Flash animation
Posted by French Toast on Thu Mar 2nd at 12:07am 2006


Generally people use Flash to make Flash animations.




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Orpheus on Thu Mar 2nd at 12:45am 2006


I find it semi-peculiar that someone who generally makes acceptable movie things has to post a question like this.

Is the preceding movies you posted so dissimilar?

(looks at board in general to forestall derogatory comments)

Its a serious inquiry. I am ignorant of the processes involved. I cannot download anything H_D posts so I was wondering if the other movies were not Flash films?





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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 2nd at 12:54am 2006


No, they were not.

They were video files, encoded with some codec, never checked which, probably divx 3.

But the "what makes flash animation" is pretty obvious, since you answer the question within the question ... it's "Flash Animation" ...

Oh well:

image



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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Mar 2nd at 2:57am 2006


Flash Animations are pretty much cartoons whereas the Music Videos Half-Dude has made in the past were video grabs from Doom 3 and Quake 4.




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by half-dude on Thu Mar 2nd at 3:08am 2006


? quoting Crono
No, they were not.

They were video files, encoded with some codec, never checked which, probably divx 3.

But the "what makes flash animation" is pretty obvious, since you answer the question within the question ... it's "Flash Animation" ...

Oh well:

"or if there are any other good programs besides flash that I should use."

I guess I didnt say it right, what I ment was I knew that Flash made flash movies but I wanted to know if there are any free programs that I could use. If you want to know the truth I'll tell you. I kinda want to animate whats going on here:

http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/28328569/

Its one of my favorite things to do and I think it would be a good experiance to take a song and try to animate mouth and movement with prerecorded audio. Dont you argee?




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 2nd at 3:15am 2006


Honestly, that'd be a pain in the ass and I would never personally do it. I'd rather use something like HL2, take some images of that, then port that into flash. I'm not sure how some people do it, honestly.

There's no other program that I know of, sorry. It's because macromedia made flash up, so, it isn't like CAD or something. (Which has many free versions)

I wish the guys who make homestarrunner would do some tutorials, because that stuff is crazy good.

But, if you use your imagination with the tutorials in the program, I'm sure you can figure it out. Probably some morphing with keyframes for timing, that kind of thing.

Try the trail out and see if you like it or not. I believe it's a fully functional version, with a time limit (30 days or something like that).



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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Dark Tree on Thu Mar 2nd at 3:27am 2006


? quoting Crono
I wish the guys who make homestarrunner would do some tutorials, because that stuff is crazy good.


Yes. They are. Check out this hillariousness that is both funny and a great work of flash animation. Amazing. http://homestarrunner.com/sbemail118.html




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by French Toast on Thu Mar 2nd at 4:10am 2006


H_D, Flash is free.

'Tis all I'll say...




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 2nd at 4:14am 2006


Hey, there is a program called SWISH that is free i think...


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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Crono on Thu Mar 2nd at 4:23am 2006


Ah, there is Swish ... not free though : Costs $100 USD.
Isn't swish suppose to be a "simplified" flash suite?

That's still cheaper than Macromedia's $700 USD price tag.



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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 2nd at 4:30am 2006


I didn't know Swish cost money! I used it for a long time and never had to pay. Of course that was a long time ago, maybe it was a freeware back then... Swish is actually easier to use than Macromedia, but Macro. has so many more features. It's just not a GUI like Swish, it's more... texty.


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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Forceflow on Thu Mar 2nd at 7:14am 2006


www.flashkit.com is a good site for tutorials and resources.
(lot of ads, though)

The flash tuts that come with Macromedia Flash MX are well worth it, too.

And guess what, I've got a legal flash version. Thanks uni.



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Re: Flash animation
Posted by wil5on on Thu Mar 2nd at 8:38am 2006


If you want to stay legit, and are a student somewhere, you can usually get programs like this with a huge discount (sometimes 80-90% off the regular price). Depends on the company, but I think Macromedia is good with this. I got Flash 5 legit for about $100US (roughly) because I was at high school at the time.


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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Loco on Thu Mar 2nd at 9:34am 2006


Agreed with wil5on. You can get the professional version in the UK for ?180 from RM if you're a student.

The nearest I could find for a freebie was Powerbullet, but from their website I'm not overly impressed I'm afraid. Macromedia (now Adobe I suppose) have a big monopoly on this sort of thing.






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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Forceflow on Thu Mar 2nd at 9:44pm 2006


Adobe bought Macromedia ?

Oh boy, Flash loading times will skyrocket to 10 minutes. The guys who brought us Acrobat Reader found a new to play with.



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Re: Flash animation
Posted by half-dude on Thu Mar 2nd at 11:16pm 2006


? quoting French Toast
H_D, Flash is free.

'Tis all I'll say...

Well that IS good news, I was wondering, could you do me a big favor and give me a link to were you can download it. I want to be sure I get the right thing.




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Re: Flash animation
Posted by ReNo on Thu Mar 2nd at 11:46pm 2006


Now we're wandering into the type of talk we don't accept on these premises guys. No discussion of where and how to get ahold of illegal stuff thank you very much.





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Re: Flash animation
Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Mar 3rd at 12:07am 2006


You can download the trial for free off their site, I don't know if it restricts the features or how long you can use it for, but here's the link anyway:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=flashbasic





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