What Every Parent Should Know; Dispelling the Myths of Common Childhood Illnesses
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Re: What Every Parent Should Know; Dispelling the Myths of Common Childhood Illnesses
Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Mar 15th at 1:56am 2006


good stuff nickel....ive always wondered about that very thing...i usually end up "sweating" out a fever, via mucho physical stuff....dispell this "wives tale" for us, would ya satch?

Doc B...:dodgy:





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Posted by satchmo on Wed Mar 15th at 2:00am 2006


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will you be talking about sayings like "starve a fever, feed a cold?"

Thanks for the reminder. I do plan to discuss it, but I forgot to include it in the fever chapter. Good call.

I now have an entire chapter on ADD, called "Untamed Heart".

And it is a myth that all children will have seizures if the fever goes up too high. Most people believe that.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Mar 15th at 2:20am 2006


Well, I thought of it because I had a week's worth of a cold, WHICH I STILL HAVE. lol I was not hungry all week and so I accidentally starved a cold. It didn't work.



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Mar 15th at 2:23am 2006


? quoting Nickelplate
Autism is on the rise on a steep curve and ADD is so overdiagnosed that any child who needs discipline "has" it



I know a guy who wanted to be tested to see if he had ADD, and then he purposely answered the questions in a way that would indicate he had the disorder, just so he could get a perscription of Ritalin to snort. That was his only goal. I don't think a tale like that necessarily has a place in your book satchmo, but it definitely happens.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Mar 15th at 2:41am 2006


It just seemed like there for a while:

parent says "Man, I can't control this kid... he must have ADD because I do not want to discipline him."





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Posted by satchmo on Wed Mar 15th at 4:33am 2006


I am considering an alternate title:

"Brain Damage and Green Mucus; A Pediatrician Dispells Myths from Old Wife's Tales"

What do you guys think?



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Wed Mar 15th at 4:38am 2006


naw....a little....mm...tacky ....for a proffesional, that is.....imho sir

Doc B...:dodgy:





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Posted by G4MER on Wed Mar 15th at 4:42am 2006


I have 3 kids.. 13 10 7.. I dont need a book any longer. If its not squirting blood, bent someway it should not be.. then they are fine. =)

I dont see anything in there that can be of use to me.. but good luck with it Satch.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Mar 15th at 4:42am 2006


I like the wording of the original title better. "Old Wife's Tales" is just kinda clunky, doncha think?




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Posted by satchmo on Wed Mar 15th at 6:53am 2006


Good to hear you guys' opinion.

I want something that's catchy...something that doesn't sound too boring.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by wil5on on Wed Mar 15th at 8:04am 2006


I'm no good with catchy titles, and I dont have kids, so I cant really contribute anything...

But when the time comes, can I get a signed copy? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">




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Posted by Orpheus on Wed Mar 15th at 10:26am 2006


? quoting satchmo


And it is a myth that all children will have seizures if the fever goes up too high. Most people believe that.

Well, I may be a dumb old person, but has never been a myth in my neck of the woods.

This book is all fine and Jim Dandy, but if you are going to write it with the assumption that everyone thinks like California does, you may need to stick to publishing it strictly in Ca.

I have noticed that you make many assumptions that everyone thinks like Ca. does. You may not notice, but I am sure that I am not the only one who does.

One thing you need to keep uppermost in your noggin while writing, most of the readers are going to catch the hair splitting you did last night and wonder, how much of the book is "opinion" and how much is... "opinion"

You goals are noble, but if your writing isn't up to clarity, then all you are going to do is release yet another "Know It All" thing that the yuppies will buy but no intelligent person would touch.

When it was all said and done, I finally figured out what point you were making with reference to the seizures, but your path to my comprehension was scenic. Thats not a preferred method when writing a book to dispel "MY" illusions.

I may be dumb, but I am characteristic of the general public in these neck of the woods and, you took way to long in your method of dispelling my myth.

Unless your target group is the gullible, I'd think hard about "how" to convey.

good luck, you may not need it, but I am saying it anyway.

/2 cents





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Posted by Spartan on Wed Mar 15th at 7:30pm 2006


Lol Orph. I don't think Satchmo is trying to cater to one group of people. I've lived in both California and Arkansas and people from Cal are just as dumb as poeple from any other state. It's more liberal of course but I think Satchmo is trying his best to stay neutral. He simply wants to inform parents about all the myths and such that come along with parenting.

Oh by the way Satch. I was reading another article today that talked about schooling and the differences between boys and girls in school. You might want to include a little something in their about that too. Just try not to get too deep into politics or psychology, or else it my deligitimize your book. Your a pediatrician after all not a psychologists. Unless of course your hiding that from us.

Anyways good luck. I wish I could get my thoughts and ideas onto paper as easily as you. Or else I might've written 50 books by now. lol




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Posted by satchmo on Wed Mar 15th at 8:55pm 2006


Thanks.

What may seem clear to me doesn't necessarily mean that it's clear for everyone else. I sent the manuscript to a bunch of my friends, and some of them had difficulty understanding some parts of it.

So I re-wrote those sections until they are clear to everyone.

And Orph, I think what made it more difficult for you to understand the cnodition of febrile seizure through this thread is that I didn't write a whole paragraph to express what I was trying to say. A sentence here, a couple of phrases there...it's enough to confuse anybody.

I specifically try not to cater to any specific demographics. Certainly not just Californians. In fact, I had in mind an international audience (like the SnarkPit).



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 18th at 1:30pm 2006


Doc, if theres one thing I have learned with my advent upon the net, its that text sucks where conveyance of meaning and intent is concerned. So, with that said, I am not accusing you of anything malicious.

That said however, there are things with writing a book that "Must be done" "Cannot be done" and "Should be done"

1st, you cannot assume that a myth exists, just because it happens to be a popular view where you live, or in the circles you travel. It may seem as if I am concentrating on this one point because we happened to disagree on it but thats not the case. It just happens to be the only commonality that we CAN discuss since I am not a doctor and have a son who had this problem.

2nd, you cannot say that something "is not", then give an example of "what is" that corroborates "what I said", that is in "opposite of your claim".. Most especially when your MAIN point was something only marginally related.. In this case, the myth about high fevers "CAUSE" sezures... Even I know that this is not the case. Especially since, as I stated, its NOT a myth in my experiences.

3rd, you must take it upon yourself to NOT assume that because its clear to you, that the topic is resolved with your simply stating "There is no such thing as...." You book is destined to failure with that thinking.

? quoting satchmo
Thanks.

What are you thanking anyone for? This wasn't an attack on you, or anyone. It was a simple observation and comment concerning my point of view on the subject. If I were attacking you, there would have been much less facts, and much more heart felt vulgarity since you repeatedly told me the same thing when all along, your goal was totally unrelated to our debate.

In the end, I DID understand you but as I said, you took way to long in centering your words on that point and you simply cannot do that with a book.. PERIOD!

Now, as for the topic at hand..

IF you could dispel two myths I would forever be thankful to you. I do not overstate the fact that I feel that with one simple book that you will revolutionize the worlds views on them but if you could mention them and drive the subject home with your POWERFUL words, I would be in your debt.

1) The myth that a baby has to have something in its mouth to suck on at all times. The myth that a pacifier is a good thing is horrible. It causes physical and psychological damage that extends far into adulthood in some rare cases. At the very least it can cause damage that extends into school age children.

2) The myth that hyper-active children need medication to assist in their learning abilities. Children in very few cases need any medication what so ever for "Learning". In many cases, children on these drugs, transform from simply hyper children to violent ones. Especially as the meds grow less effective and the strength of the drug is increased to compensate.

Now, thats about all I will say on the 2 topics. You may chose to ignore them but please try NOT to discount them in this thread. They are real concerns and as such are not open for debating. I would rather that the book not comment on them than have them actively discounted as irrelevant.

Thanx.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun Mar 19th at 2:37am 2006


I'm not satchmo, but I think he was thanking Spartan for his well wishes.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 19th at 12:39pm 2006


? quoting Addicted to Morphine
I'm not satchmo, but I think he was thanking Spartan for his well wishes.

Yeah, I thought of that as well, but I am leaning more toward... Spartan support over my observations. Since in light of he did actually support.

*shrugs*

Anyway, it will all come out in the wash.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by fishy on Sun Mar 19th at 10:40pm 2006


guns don't kill people, peanuts do.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 19th at 10:49pm 2006


So true.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by satchmo on Sun Mar 19th at 11:52pm 2006


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2) The myth that hyper-active children need medication to assist in their learning abilities. Children in very few cases need any medication what so ever for "Learning". In many cases, children on these drugs, transform from simply hyper children to violent ones. Especially as the meds grow less effective and the strength of the drug is increased to compensate.

I hope you meant that as a myth. Children who are properly evaluated for ADHD and diagnosed with the condition will improve their learning and behavior. Some people think it's a conspiracy by the drug company.

But as parents, they have two options. They can either believe the myth and refuse to do anything about their kids' condition, and just have them failing through life and have low self-esteem, or they can allow their kids to reach their true potential by helping them to focus better with these medications.

The choice is theirs.



"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return." -- Toulouse-Lautre, Moulin Rouge




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