What Every Parent Should Know; Dispelling the Myths of Common Childhood Illnesses
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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat Mar 25th at 6:26pm 2006


? quoting Orpheus

Sad, you assumed me erroneous on the basis of you not reading the thread through. image


Well -- when you said this I just assumed you were anti-ADHD drugs:
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Yup, sure thing. All the children I have ever seen are nearly catatonic from the drugs. Sure they do better in school. They have no choice since sitting and drooling is more favorable to learning than bouncing around like they are on speed.


I responded to this since its ridiculous to say that the drug causes children to be catatonic droolers, when in fact it does just the opposite: it allows them to focus and mentally engage. I just jumped on your poor choice of words, even though I now see what you were trying to say.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 25th at 6:39pm 2006


? quoting Addicted to Morphine

I responded to this since its ridiculous to say that the drug causes children to be catatonic droolers, when in fact it does just the opposite: it allows them to focus and mentally engage. I just jumped on your poor choice of words, even though I now see what you were trying to say.

You were only working from the pretense that I was talking about "ALL" children. As I said repeatedly, I was only commenting on the misdiagnosed ones.

I am finding it difficult to believe that you have not seen the children I am referring to. You have not seen some near catatonic children, and wonder why?

Could it be the chemical baby sitting that I fear?

Seriously Morph, the case is not as clear cut as you want to believe it to be. If a child truly has ADHD, then it most definitely needs its medication. THATS A GIVEN. If the child however doesn't respond according to plan, in this case "Acting Normal" then clearly it is either on the wrong meds, or is clearly NOT an ADHD patient.

Both of my nephews sit and are stoned. I know that you know what Stoned means. They sit and do nothing more than SIT....





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sat Mar 25th at 8:24pm 2006


? quoting Orpheus

I am finding it difficult to believe that you have not seen the children I am referring to. You have not seen some near catatonic children, and wonder why?
Could it be the chemical baby sitting that I fear?

What are you trying to say? That I'm taking ADHD drugs and are trying to defend myself?

? quoting Orpheus

Seriously Morph, the case is not as clear cut as you want to believe it to be. If a child truly has ADHD, then it most definitely needs its medication. THATS A GIVEN. If the child however doesn't respond according to plan, in this case "Acting Normal" then clearly it is either on the wrong meds, or is clearly NOT an ADHD patient.

I agree with that. I was just confused before about which group you were talking about. The kids who were misdiagnosed or just kids in general.

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Both of my nephews sit and are stoned. I know that you know what Stoned means. They sit and do nothing more than SIT....

I didn't realize that misdiagnosed ADHD caused that type of behavior. I just haven't seen it, but I feel sorry that your nephews have to go through that.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 25th at 9:33pm 2006


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? quoting Orpheus
I am finding it difficult to believe that you have not seen the children I am referring to. You have not seen some near catatonic children, and wonder why?
Could it be the chemical baby sitting that I fear?


What are you trying to say? That I'm taking ADHD drugs and are trying to defend myself?

Even allowing for text and its inability to convey clearly, how did you derive my saying that you were ADHD?

Its a clear cut question, one that I am finding difficult to believe but its clear that you have either not seen children misdiagnosed, or you are assuming that their life "as you are seeing them" is normal.

Its most likely because the patient you are witnessing is one that you had never seen before their advent onto the drugs.

It seem clear to me that this is the only possible answer because I feel that you would not deliberately oppose me on so clear cut of human decency.

I would NEVER wish a young child to needlessly take these drugs but, perhaps someday you will find a child before they are diagnosed ADHD and then notice their supposed "better" lives afterward. The ones who are misdiagnosed live cruel and boring existences. My nephews are, no longer normal. Normal for them was happy, highly energized lives. Now they are either stoned, or mean. And when I say mean, I mean physically violent. They "like" hurting others now.





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Posted by satchmo on Sat Mar 25th at 11:02pm 2006


This thread reminds me why I stayed away from the SnarkPit.


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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Sun Mar 26th at 12:12am 2006


I'm sorry Satch. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> I don't mean to scare you off with these threads. I'll try to keep it light from now on.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Mar 26th at 12:19am 2006


Snarkpit is literally the most free thinking site I have ever visited. And rightly, it can claim to be so. If this site, or anyone within it is discouraging you away from it, by all means, stay away. But be it known that most sites are far and away worse and even though we are free thinkers, most of us are unforgiving in our wrath.

Morph, never ever apologize for your viewpoint. Be sorry if its harmful but never apologize for it.

If you have to watch your mouth to retain Satches presence, its way to high a price in my book.

If I scared you away Satch, good. You needed to be gone. If you remain, I will not cut you any slack but, I will respect you for remaining.

Tis your choice. I will not miss you, but I will wonder why.

In the end, I will ascertain that I was indeed correct. And that I can always live with.

Make your choices, wisely.





The best things in life, aren't things.




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