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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Mar 22nd at 8:58am 2006

Gwil, my man, a region has to ahve stability in th first place to become destabilised.

And it seems that you are using any source to try to speak out against the US and thier actions. but you seem like you're defending all the bad guys here...




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Wed Mar 22nd at 5:06pm 2006

So Gwil doesn't feel like he's all alone with this one, I'm going to have to throw my hat in and say that I agree with all his points.

I don't have anything to add, other than the fact that I think in some ways the United States right now is bringing terror on a wider scale to more of the world than the so-called terrorists we're chasing ever did. And therefore, I see our country's actions as blundering, destructive, and counter-productive.



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Posted by Gwil on Wed Mar 22nd at 5:30pm 2006

Exactly - invading Iraq was done on false pretenses and the Governments of our nations knowingly mislead the public - not good.

I'm not siding with the bad guys Nickel, far from it - see how I define Iran for that, but more I am attacking the reasons we went to war and how we undertook the conflict itself.

It may seem like I rage against the US Government a lot, but i'm the first to step in and question the European states, attack Russias policies toward former satellite states, criticise the Muslim and Arab nations for their failings in human rights and most of all highlight the problems in Africa as having their roots in corruption.

Moreso the US seems to be under attack because as the "only superpower", the results of its actions and policies are magnified a thousand times over.




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Posted by FatStrings on Wed Mar 22nd at 8:14pm 2006

i concur





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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 23rd at 1:19am 2006

Well, okay. There are so many people around that are attacking the US (not physically) just to be in the opposition group and go against thier parents political party. It's hard to tell who's doing it for what reasons. Also, a big thing locally is to protest the war because you hear your parents doing it.


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Posted by Gwil on Thu Mar 23rd at 1:27am 2006

Oh definately Nickelplate. I run into (actually mostly on the net, people I know from town) "peace for all, man!" types who protested (but have no real opinions) and people who want the troops out without realising how much more damage it would do.

I do think, unfortunately for the US people, the actions of the Government have turned world opinion after being caught up in a general wave of US opinions. I think Michael Moore and other reactionary "for the sake of it" filmmakers have a lot to answer for in villifying the US.

Particularly I dislike Brits who fight for everything anti oil, anti-US anti capitalist, anti reality but will not have an opinion, feeling or even knowledge relating to the domestic problems we suffer day to day. I suppose that explains why I do wade into these discussions on international affairs.. because most of our population doesn't have an inch of clue about what's happening here.

Oh well <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:00am 2006

I think a lot of the people posing radical ideas don't live with thier parents or associate with them on a daily basis tbh Nickelplate. For one, I live in a flat away from both of my parents, who no doubt have different ideas completely.


-[Better to be Honest than Kind]-



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Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:20am 2006

*quoting sir gwillam

(although I do hold concerns over imposing democracy on societies which aren't culturally shaped for such a drastic change).

this sir, is the absolute problem with this whole idea, this war, in the first place.....the crux, if you will

*again, by sir gwillam

Point out to me where I am saying "THE USA IS A HORRIBLE BUNCH OF A HOLES" anywhere in this thread and i'll go with your sentiment. Otherwise that comment is nonsense.

see below------

What about your partners in crime, the United Kingdom and Australia?

if ya would have put it in sarcasm, i'd have let it pass gwil.....you know i respect you sir, but little shots, built up over time, indicate the tenor of your feeling towards the usa sometimes much more than the words around them....sometimes. ive known ya awhile gwil, so i understand, weve had this converstaion before.... not so many others have that same priveledge.... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:20am 2006

? quoting Myrk-
I think a lot of the people posing radical ideas don't live with thier parents or associate with them on a daily basis tbh Nickelplate. For one, I live in a flat away from both of my parents, who no doubt have different ideas completely.

Then you're just doing it to rail against your parents.




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Posted by Gwil on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:26am 2006

? quote:
Well, okay. There are so many people around that are attacking the US (not physically) just to be in the opposition group and go against thier parents political party. It's hard to tell who's doing it for what reasons. Also, a big thing locally is to protest the war because you hear your parents doing it.


tbh for me i'm just an angry git anyway.

The war in Iraq in day to day life is just a passing anger of many. the internet just gives a place to rage :P




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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:29am 2006

Yeah, you are pretty angry. I don't think ANYONE really likes the war and masturbates to it and all that. I tihnk some just see the good in with the bad, you know?

There's ALWAYS good in with the bad.




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Posted by Gwil on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:33am 2006

that's the great sadness of it all!

*sigh*




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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu Mar 23rd at 2:36am 2006

But there's good in that great sadness, yeah?


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Posted by Dr Brasso on Thu Mar 23rd at 4:29am 2006

...we'd be in need of a pub and some lovely, health card-carrying hookers......SAY!! i may be on to something here.....<img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif"> ***contemplates the wisdom of dialing up dubyah, getting all the world leaders together......................nah... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">

Doc B





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Posted by FatStrings on Fri Mar 24th at 3:38am 2006

i happen to have fairly close political views to that of my parents, but i am proud to say that i made them myself through research and experience
by the way i still live with my parents

lol...dubyah
i have a friend who goes around makin fun of people who carry their parents views that all Republicans are perfect, he's always like "i'm down wit dubyah" and he's incredibly white so it's even funnier




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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Mar 24th at 5:25am 2006

Making fun of morality is great. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/dead.gif">


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Posted by Toast King on Fri Mar 24th at 2:35pm 2006

Judging from what ive seen on TV and other people who have watched, it sounds s**t. Just sounds like Matrix with a slight modification. Another boring American action s**t with bad acting and crap storyline. Id rather watch something decent like Tsotsi (A movie made here in south africa and got a Oskar)


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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Fri Mar 24th at 5:06pm 2006

Toast King, you should read through the thread because aside from the political derailment a few of us, including myself, thought it was worth a watch.



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Posted by French Toast on Fri Mar 24th at 9:23pm 2006

Turns outI was lied to and it's not rated R...

Going to see it soon...




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Posted by FatStrings on Sat Mar 25th at 4:48am 2006

just curious, but has anyone read the book?
i plan on reading it before i watch the movie





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