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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by Toast King on Tue Apr 4th at 10:46am 2006


EN6600 = Extreme N6600.
It is just a normal 6600, but with 256ddr and 500mhz core, and for PCI-e.
EN6600 is just the model name.



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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by rs6 on Tue Apr 4th at 10:31pm 2006


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Wait until the dx10 cards arrive, that's what I would do.


Agreed. The cards out now, even the best like quad 7800GTX's aren't able to run DX10. Thats what I have heard though, because DX10 is supposed to change EVERYTHING.




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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Wed Apr 5th at 2:26am 2006


Like DX9 before it?
And DX8?
DX7?

It won't change everything, probably just a few more features. Meh.



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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by rs6 on Wed Apr 5th at 2:46am 2006


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directx_10

If you scroll down to the "future of directx" you can see what microsoft plans to do. Pretty much DX10 includes stuff (WGF 2.0) that no video card now can run.




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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by wil5on on Wed Apr 5th at 8:55am 2006


So on a current video card, they will be disabled, and youll likely end up with better overall performance at the expense of shinier walls. My old 1ghz machine runs any DX9 game faster with an mx440 than a radeon 9600 for this very reason.


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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Apr 5th at 10:37am 2006


It's a difficult time for buying a graphics card.



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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by Orpheus on Thu Apr 6th at 1:23pm 2006


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It's a difficult time for buying a graphics card.

Not really. The underlying reason still remains. Even if the DX10's came out today, damned few of us could afford one so they wouldn't be bought.. That simple.

The basic truth of the matter is, we buy what we can afford to buy. The sad thing is, damned few research their options and buy whats convenient. I bought my ATI 9800 pro 256 after researching my options. I waited 2 weeks for it to arrive and so far have been pleased that I did. Most run down to the nearest store and buy one "today".. and regret the decision immediately.

Basically, if anyone can buy a DX10 card, then they prolly have more money than sense anyway so its a moot topic.





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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by Toast King on Thu Apr 6th at 3:55pm 2006


Who actually buys their computer s**t from a shop? It is SO much cheaper buying it from dealers or online.


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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by Myrk- on Thu Apr 6th at 4:34pm 2006


I was always under the impressions that PCI-E was a fad that came and went in a year. Didn't they find that AGP 16x was actually faster, and considerably cheaper to buy/manufacture?

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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by ReNo on Thu Apr 6th at 4:37pm 2006


I haven't heard anything about AGP16x before, but I don't see any reason to think PCI-E is a fad given that it has become the new standard.





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Posted by Crono on Thu Apr 6th at 8:20pm 2006


I don't think so. The bandwidth capable on the PCI-E bus is much higher than doubling the AGP 8X bus (I believe, you can find actual figures, if you like). That's why you'll see a lot of boards with built in stuff using the PCI-E bus for things like Gigabyte-network.

I think the entire architecture needs a change anyway, so perhaps I'm not the best person to ask <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

But, it isn't a fad. The bus' are suppose to be far more efficient. And, to top it off, even if there were cheaper AGP architecture, it wouldn't matter. PCI-E is already slated to do a lot more than video hardware. This is where the the duel slots will come into play. There's a few expansions in development, which can run concurrently with the graphics card to provide better experiences.

I think it'd be adequate to point out that the PCI bridge is a slow mo-fo. This is to speed that up. I think they initially will work with graphics cards, since those require a lot of bandwidth, but, eventually, I hope they really expand it. Something like four PCI-E slots that can all work in sync with each other would give many options.

But, if it's just for graphics, yeah, there'd be no reason to change it. But no one is supporting anything higher than 8X AGP, so.



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Posted by Myrk- on Thu Apr 6th at 9:36pm 2006


PCI-E is over a year and a half old Reno, hardly new...


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Posted by G4MER on Thu Apr 6th at 11:34pm 2006


Myrk, thats what he was saying.. like DUH.



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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by Toast King on Sat Apr 8th at 12:42pm 2006


I have just recieved it, and installed it, and so far it has made a HUGE diffrence. Now Instead of running games of medium with a bit of lag, I now run 'em on high with perfect framerates. Seems pretty good imo.


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Re: Buying a graphics card...
Posted by Forceflow on Sat Apr 8th at 1:23pm 2006


? quoting Orpheus
Not really. The underlying reason still remains. Even if the DX10's came out today, damned few of us could afford one so they wouldn't be bought.. That simple.


I didn't mean "wait until the DX10 cards" in order to buy one. When they arrive, the DX9 cards will drop in price, and all the 300-400$ cards on the market now will be cheaper.



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Posted by Toast King on Sat Apr 8th at 4:34pm 2006


Hehe, even though I only have 512 ram (Getting a GIG on monday) I can play BF2 on max setting with hardly any lag, except that it sometimes starts thrashing when I run out of ram =[ SO more ram. But still runs great =]


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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Sat Apr 8th at 8:11pm 2006


Enjoy the joys of having a superior graphics card <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">


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Posted by rs6 on Sat Apr 8th at 9:37pm 2006


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Hehe, even though I only have 512 ram (Getting a GIG on monday) I can play BF2 on max setting with hardly any lag, except that it sometimes starts thrashing when I run out of ram =[ SO more ram. But still runs great =]


Yea BF2 is probaly the most ineffiecent game I have ever played RAM wise. It uses up my whole gig, and i don't even play on all high.




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Posted by Toast King on Sun Apr 9th at 7:11am 2006


Hehe, but BF2 has massive open spaces with loads of objects, but it does use quad tree, but still occasionly lags for a few seconds.


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Posted by Toast King on Sun Apr 9th at 5:45pm 2006


Dammit, ive becomed so damb hooked to BF2 =D
Awsome game, especialy with lovely crisp dynamic shadows and hi-qual models and shiny water.



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