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Posted by Elon Yariv on Wed Apr 5th at 5:39pm 2006

Lots of source level designers wouldn't make maps. Like me!(although I don't make source maps) I wouldn't pay a dime for level design.


Elon Yariv



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Posted by Captain P on Wed Apr 5th at 9:05pm 2006

I have actually paid for additional programs (well, only one so far - Milkshape 3D), so I would pay for stuff I actually would use a lot, but within limits.
I can't say buying Milkshape was a bad choice bytheway. Though not a high-poly modeller, it certainly allowed (and allows) me to do funny things I wouldn't have been capable of without. And on top of that, I learned how to model, which is an important thing when programming 3D stuff. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

So, I would pay, if it would pay off. But you don't buy what you don't know, so trials are always a good thing methinks. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">


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Posted by wil5on on Wed Apr 5th at 10:15pm 2006

I suspect, Vash, that if whoever made apostrophes charged for them there wouldnt be so many superfluous ones such as in the title of this thread...

I'm not serious enough about mapping to pay for it. If I had to pay, I'd switch to a different engine.




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Posted by Vash on Wed Apr 5th at 10:41pm 2006

Yes, ignore all my correct spelling and point out the one grammatical error.



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Posted by ReNo on Wed Apr 5th at 10:53pm 2006

You want somebody to bitch at for grammatical errors, take a look at Brasso and his love affair of the ellipsis <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> I don't think he's ever used a full stop before without immediately following it with two others :P Sorry Brasso, love you really!



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Posted by Vash on Wed Apr 5th at 11:13pm 2006

I knew this guy...Who...Really loved...His ellipsis...But...To make it even....Worse...He use to....End all...Sentences with....The word lol...lol...



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Posted by reaper47 on Wed Apr 5th at 11:35pm 2006

ellipsis are great.
In forums you can use them like a smilies. It's the equivalent of looking meaningful for a split second.

hmm...



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Posted by Crono on Thu Apr 6th at 5:25am 2006

I like using it for an unknown amount of arguments.

I'll be quiet now.


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Apr 6th at 8:31am 2006

Why would a game developer charge for the very thing that has the power to make the game popular ? That would be plain boycotting of your own publicity.


:: Forceflow.be :: Nuclear Dawn developer



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Posted by wil5on on Thu Apr 6th at 9:44am 2006

I like the occasional ellipsis... but I rarely use more than one or two ellipses in a post.


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Posted by ReNo on Thu Apr 6th at 3:24pm 2006

? quote:
I like using it for an unknown amount of arguments.

I'll be quiet now.


Don't you worry Crono, you got a laugh out of me <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">



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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu Apr 6th at 11:27pm 2006

I'm more of a fan of the --

I almost always insert a -- into a post, where a comma would do fine.




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Posted by Captain P on Fri Apr 7th at 12:59am 2006

And this was a mapping-related thread... once... :P


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Posted by reaper47 on Fri Apr 7th at 5:55pm 2006

It was... once. -- now it isn't anymore.



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Posted by reaper47 on Sat Apr 15th at 1:24pm 2006

I just read at the Steam Review that Garry's Mod will be sold for $10 over Steam with the next update. I don't know if it's a hoax but it sounds rather serious (also it's too late for Arpil fools...).

This reminds me a bit of charging for the SDK, I must say. I don't know what to think about it. Maybe it's just because I don't like Garry very much. I once saw him behave like a dick in his forums. He reminds me of that frustrated GM in the other thread <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">

What do you think about this?



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Posted by Andrei on Sat Apr 15th at 2:02pm 2006

If it is true, it won't work. If he had done this from the very beginning, it would have worked, but it's too late now. I don't think people will be motivated enough into buying a mod unless the change is HUGE.





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Posted by reaper47 on Sat Apr 15th at 2:32pm 2006

? quote:
If it is true, it won't work. If he had done this from the very
beginning, it would have worked, but it's too late now. I don't think
people will be motivated enough into buying a mod unless the change is HUGE.



Well, it worked quite well with CS... (also DoD and TFC in a way...). What I do like about the idea is that it's a really unique game concept. An FPS mod neither about war nor terrorism.



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Posted by French Toast on Sat Apr 15th at 3:08pm 2006

Big debates about this all over the place. Tons of people screaming SELLOUT.

Whatever, as long as I have my previous free version I'm okay.




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Posted by $loth on Tue Apr 18th at 10:46am 2006

You could probably download the SDK's from illegal sites, so I don't think it would have a huge impact.




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Posted by reaper47 on Tue Apr 18th at 11:22am 2006

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You could probably download the SDK's from illegal sites, so I don't think it would have a huge impact.


It would be Steam secured.




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