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Posted by Bewbies on Mon Apr 17th at 7:18pm 2006

breathing the same air as them makes you gay. duh.


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Posted by pepper on Mon Apr 17th at 7:34pm 2006

A gun as a self defence weapon in a urban is useless for a untrained person.

Did you know that only 15% of the soldiers in WWII dared to fire there weapon? Werent they trained to do so? Yes they were.

The military figured that they needed to not train people to shoot, but to kill. And believe me, i doubt anyone here would dare to pull the trigger on a intruder. Just because the sheer fact that it hunts you every time you close your eye's.

A british documentary followd a person that wanted to know the truth behind killing. Its a 2 hour documentary but very interesting to watch, it was aired on National Geograhic channel, called : The truth about killing.




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Posted by Spartan on Mon Apr 17th at 7:42pm 2006

Sigh

You guys really don't get it do you?
There are those from both the religious side and scientific side that will say that homosexuality is a sin or unnatural. I don't understand how loving another human being is a sin or unnatural. f**k the church and f**k evolution, nobody on this planet has a right to deny another person happiness, simply because they don't agree with the ethics. Homosexuality is not a choirce, understand this, I know it's a cliche but it's true. There are those out there who would like to do harm and even kill those that love someone of the same gender. They seam to forget we are all humans. Gender, skin color, religion, etc, should not be a determining factor for love.




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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 17th at 7:44pm 2006

? quoting Stadric
Why am I always late to these things?

I'm just going to rebuke Orph for a sec, then I'll be on my way.
Orph, you said that Frenchy can't accept homosexuals, on the basis that that would make him homosexual. This is coming from the guy who recently made the distinction between homosexuals(the people) and homosexuality(the idea). If Frenchy were accepting homosexuality(the idea), that would make him a homosexual, yes, but he isn't accepting the idea, he's accepting the people. By accepting the people, he is merely becoming friends/friendly with them, not participating in homosexual activities along with them.

I will use a word, no one can refute.

"Patronize"

I believe you, you're absolutely right. If Frenchy says he accepts, he accepts.





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Posted by Kain on Mon Apr 17th at 9:57pm 2006

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And believe me, i doubt anyone here would dare to pull the trigger on a intruder.

I've already thought about that: well, there's no need to kill an intruder caught sneaking into your house: you can just shoot him in the legs. You wont go to jail for that, and you wont have anything heavy on your conscience; plus it's an efficient way to make him "freeze" until the arrival of the police. If one day I were in that position, I would fire in the leg: it's the only way not to hesitate.





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Posted by fishy on Mon Apr 17th at 10:13pm 2006

from what i've seen on tv etc, it's better to make the clean kill if you're in the US. damaging someone, and letting them live to sue you for it, can be a very costly business.




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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 17th at 10:16pm 2006

? quoting fishy
from what i've seen on tv etc, it's better to make the clean kill if you're in the US. damaging someone, and letting them live to sue you for it, can be a very costly business.

I have cop friends. They tell it like this:

1st besure that they are in your home, even if you have to drag the body inside to accomplish it.

2nd, shoot to kill.

3rd, repeat step #1 if there are 2 bodies.





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Posted by Stadric on Tue Apr 18th at 1:14am 2006

I've got a question for your cop friends, Orph. Where exactly does the right to do anything to an intruder on your property stop?




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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Apr 18th at 1:27am 2006

? quoting Stadric
I've got a question for your cop friends, Orph. Where exactly does the right to do anything to an intruder on your property stop?

Before they break in? They have the right not to burglarize your property. I thought that was perfectly clear. Or did I misunderstand your question?





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Posted by Foxpup on Tue Apr 18th at 3:02am 2006

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I've got a question for your cop friends, Orph. Where exactly
does the right to do anything to an intruder on your property stop?

The right to self-defense stops when the intruder is no longer a threat: if they run away, surrender or are incapacitated or killed, it's time to stop shooting.



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Posted by $loth on Tue Apr 18th at 7:53am 2006

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Metrosexuals! That's what's wrong with this world! They give weapons a reason to exist.


Because they dress good?

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I've got a question for your cop friends, Orph. Where exactly does the right to do anything to an intruder on your property stop?


I think torture is past that line

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Also has anyone ever talked to someone who think games give them the ability to shoot any gun in real life?


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Jking, though my ability to shoot a gun is limited to a .22 rifle...




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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Thu Apr 20th at 1:45pm 2006

Playing a shooting game won't give you the ability to handle a weapon, but it will help with your hand eye coordination and that is what counts after you know the basics. And before I get flamed let me tell to some of you that don't know this from before: I've been to army. I'm a reserve machinegunner. I was chosen for that job due to my good aim. The best of the machinegunners were selected as snipers. I'm not a masterful shot, but I can drop a moving target from 150 meters with one shot(using an RK-62 finnish made AK-47 derivate with better sights and some other minor improvements). As for hitting and shooting at humans; in our combat excercises we used wood headed blanks and infra red emitters as well as infra red recieving vests. I've shot at humans. I know it's different from actually killing them with hard rounds, but still you get that feeling at the bottom of your stomach when you squeeze the trigger...
As for do I approve guns. Yes, if there's some control over whom them are given to. The "bad guys" will always get their guns, but control limits the amount of crazy people running around killing people for fun(I know it's bluntly said).
As for homemade guns, well as long as you have control over your own doings and you're responsible there's nothing wrong with it.



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Posted by Belgarion on Thu Apr 20th at 5:01pm 2006

Uhh.. I hope what you mean is that in an ideal society weapons are unnecessary. If a government or society simply bans having weapons then bad things are going to happen. Someone evil will have something and use it and no one will have a way to defend against it or stop him. I tend to subscribe to the "If everyone has weapons, and everone knows it, people will be far less likely to commit crimes" idea.

I think I'm with most people on this one, in that I don't have a problem with having weapons so long as you are responsible and understand the implications of owning something that can kill a person, or do serious damage. That is a very very serious and often overlooked (or given lack of serious contemplation) situation people can get into.

Animals.. whatever. There is an overpopulation of deer around where I live. I have no problem with people hunting deer. I own a .22 semi-automatic longrifle. I have it because I enjoy shooting targets, not for protection. My father owns a shotgun for the same reason. If someone broke into my house and I actually got the drop on them, I'd probably kick them (HARD) into a wall and do my best to knock them out, then call 911.


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