Posted by Gaara on Sun Apr 16th at 8:48am 2006
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Posted by Crono on Sun Apr 16th at 9:15am 2006
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For instance: If someone owns a gun, that doesn't bother me. What would bother me, however, is if they claim it's for protection, like from an intruder. It's a BS excuse, because the defense mechanic doesn't fit the situation. Neither would a knife. Why? Simple, the layout of a house doesn't allow you to keep your distance from a person when using a gun. It's mostly close quarters (relatively speaking) ... same goes with a knife. A baseball bat would work much better ... not to mention, if someone does break into your house ... chances are you're asleep. (Unless they're that smooth, but most robbers break in at night or when you're not there) So, even if you're woken up by it ... using a precision device, such as a gun, would be very difficult. Also, your home is presumably dimmer than during the day, since it's night.
Anyway, the other issue I have, is if they keep it loaded for that purpose. Because then, they'd also rely on it any time they heard a "disturbance". Or at least, in general, that's what happens. But, if they're actually responsible with it. I don't see any problem.
Posted by MisterBister on Sun Apr 16th at 9:20am 2006
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Posted by Gaara on Sun Apr 16th at 10:09am 2006
Yeah I understand where you are coming from, I'm against the use of weapons against people or animals (well most animals), and also weapons being in the possesion of idiots. But most of the fun for me comes from making them, like when I built my spudcannon I learned alot about PVC and air pressure (I made a pneumatic spudgun), and when I made my throwing stars, throwing knives, and blowgun, I learned a bit about metals and working with them. Plus its cool to get good at using them. To me guns are an entirely different matter. You don't neccesarily have to be focused or sane to fire one, and even the weakest of guns (not counting bb guns) can kill.The difference in guns is huge as well, and I agree with Crono that using them for self defense is the most BS excuse for owning one (especially a rifle). I might be getting a gun soon though because I just saw Dawn of the Dead " SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">.
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Posted by Andrei on Sun Apr 16th at 11:00am 2006
Simple, the layout of a house doesn't allow you to keep your distance from a person when using a gun. It's mostly close quarters (relatively speaking) ... same goes with a knife. Awith it. I don't see any problem.
Depends on the house and type of gun. I agree, using a 357 in a small apartment isn't exactly a good idea, but you're overlooking the psychological effect it has on the knife-armed intruder: you ambush him in the hallway and once your gun is aimed at him, he knows it's gameover. Even if you're only 2 meters away from him, he still can't afford to do anything funny. Not unless he wants to become subject to lead poisoning.
I've don't have any home-made weapons. I don't want any home-made weapons.
What I did have, however, were home-made explosives. Small quantities, nothing lethal. Some were hydrogen-oxygen based.
Posted by Gaara on Sun Apr 16th at 11:20am 2006
What I did have, however, were home-made explosives. Small quantities, nothing lethal. Some were hydrogen-oxygen based.
Yeah I dabbled in explosives also but I just dont find them to be predictable enough, and after one use they where gone.
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Posted by Kain on Sun Apr 16th at 11:45am 2006
Anything can be used as a weapon. A crowbar for example is a great weapon, and is perfectly legal; I'd feel much safer with one in the back seat of my car, especially when I cross some "hot" neighbourhoods.
In an ideal society, weapons should not be allowed. Unfortunately, we're still very far from that. Maybe in Sweden or in some Northern European countries, they are civilized enough to know the meaning of pacifism. But that's not the case world wide... Weapons remain useful, at least for dissuasive purposes.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 16th at 11:50am 2006
Depends on what I need it for but, any that cause pain are alright with me.
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Posted by fishy on Sun Apr 16th at 12:35pm 2006
Posted by Gaara on Sun Apr 16th at 12:44pm 2006
I'm not talking about making anything with a gun lathe or anything that complex and dangerous, but generally I mean something you could buy the parts to at a hardware store or other shops.
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Posted by Spartan on Sun Apr 16th at 1:16pm 2006
WTF? What is with peoople owning guns that is so bad? As long as they are sane and don't have any serous criminal background I don't see a problem with it. I believe in gun safety but not outlawing them. You make it sound like people who own guns are pyschos or cavemen.
Gaara. You say that people who have guns and use them for self defense are full of BS? Then what's your excuse for making all your weapons? A weapo is a weapon after all. It's only objective is to mame or kill another living creature. I don't see why people just admit that guns are fun to shoot. We have a few rifles that we keep locked in a big metal safe, and we only use them on targets at a shooting range design specificaly for that. People here can vouch that I'm not some dumb hillbilly you imagine when you think of southern U.S.
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 16th at 1:25pm 2006
/me giggles.
Guns are on the list of hot topics that always inflame at Snarkpit.
So far the list of topics that hardly ever end amicably are:
Guns
Homosexuality
Religion
Politics
Abortion
and
Killboxes.
This thread is gonna be fun. " SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">
My stance:
Guns don't kill people, people do.
Homosexuality is evil.
Religion, can be a good thing, but is not for everyone.
Politics, sucks ass.
Abortion, kills innocent babies.
Killboxes, are made and played by stupid people.
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Posted by Spartan on Sun Apr 16th at 1:44pm 2006
Posted by Victor-933 on Sun Apr 16th at 2:05pm 2006
It appears whatever monkey is running this country never learned the lessons of the 60's.
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 16th at 2:13pm 2006
No you don't. I assure you.
What I can tell you is this, so pay attention.
Do not confuse homosexuality, with homosexuals. I do not think homosexuals are evil.
I think Alcoholism is evil, I do not think alcoholics are.
Homophobia is a made up word. It was designed to make homosexuals feel better about themselves in an otherwise evil situation. There is no true homophobia. Their is simple disgust.
As I said before, I hate homophobic-phobes. Anyone who thinks I am wrong for feeling negative toward homosexuality, can kiss my ass. They have no more right to judge me, than they think I have to judge the concept of homosexuality.
Its a very good example of calling the kettle black.
In the end though, Gwil doesn't really want the topic rehashed. There are plenty of topics concerning this already. You might be curious enough to search them out.
In the end though, don't phobe me, unless you are prepared for the outcome.
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Posted by French Toast on Sun Apr 16th at 2:19pm 2006
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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sun Apr 16th at 2:21pm 2006
**pops on rubber glove....
"did someone say "probe"...??..... " SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">
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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 16th at 2:30pm 2006
Only if I get to pick the spot. I want all my kisses squarely on the flower. Dead center. I won't even wash it first either.
So you are admitting that you are as bad as me? Thats ballsy. Damned few admit their short comings.
I bet though, that you have not been accused of being a phobe for very long because it doesn't seem to bother you yet.
Give it a few years. It will get old, and you'll start to notice that the assholes accusing you of wrong doings, are doing the exact same thing.. To you.
Perhaps I'll be around when it happens. You be sure and let me know.
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Posted by Andrei on Sun Apr 16th at 2:46pm 2006
Posted by Spartan on Sun Apr 16th at 3:08pm 2006
What I don't get is how come your so open mided to homosexuals yet you have no respect for Orph's opinions? Your just another dips**t who's trying to fit in with the vision of a politically correct society by defending stuff you don't even understand and then bashing those who don't agree with it.
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