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Posted by rival on Sun Apr 16th at 11:38pm 2006


since there has been a lot of controversy circulating around....

what is your view on narcotic drugs?

personally i dont see much wrong with soft drugs and hallucinogens, but when it comes to hard drugs like crack and heroin thats where the line should be drawn.




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Posted by Gwil on Sun Apr 16th at 11:49pm 2006


Not sure, tbh.

I've taken more than my fair share in the past (way past "cannabis level") - and I thoroughly enjoyed the times I had. Whether or not they were enhanced by the drugs I was taking at the time, is debateable - but going by the social spectrum I was in, I would stick my neck out and say they heightened everyones senses and emotions in a positive way, and broke down barriers between people nothing else could..

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As a political issue, I think it goes state by state - I would happily legalise drugs in "teutonic" Europe (Denmark, Holland, Germany), but would in no way consider it for the British (or the French). I can't speak about the Americas, and Asia, but the culture the most westerly states of Europe lives under isn't conducive to legalised drugs.

Bit of a drunken ramble, but basically, it's context sensitive.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 16th at 11:56pm 2006


I think discussing illegal drug use is at least as *taboo* as borrowing software.

In so far as discussing it openly I mean. Snarkpit doesn't need the stigma of such a conversation.

/last I have to say on the subject.





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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 17th at 12:19am 2006


? quoting Orpheus
I think discussing illegal drug use is at least as *taboo* as borrowing software.

In so far as discussing it openly I mean. Snarkpit doesn't need the stigma of such a conversation.

/last I have to say on the subject.

so it is justified to have a thread on homemade weapons and killing people?? (which i can say can be interpreted as terrorism)

@Gwil i agree with what you are saying about us more western states, though i never thought about it before




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Posted by Spartan on Mon Apr 17th at 12:19am 2006


I can honestly say I've never taken drugs. I've never even drank alchohol before. It's not because I'm against it or afraid of it, I just never saw a reason to take drugs or drink. Although I've thought about it several times as a use to relieve stress.




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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 17th at 12:21am 2006


? quoting Spartan
I can honestly say I've never taken drugs. I've never even drank alchohol before. It's not because I'm against it or afraid of it, I just never saw a reason to take drugs or drink. Although I've thought about it several times as a use to relieve stress.

i dont agree with drugs/alcohol as a stress relief, because i believe that using them to relieve stress or depression often destroys the user in worse ways




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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 17th at 12:40am 2006


? quoting rival

so it is justified to have a thread on homemade weapons and killing people?? (which i can say can be interpreted as terrorism)

The difference is, at least in this case. You were talking hypothetically about weapons and using them. I assume you have not killed anyone yet?

You are more/less admitting to using illegal drugs... Or someone will before the thread is complete.

There is a decided difference between admitting to doing an illegal action and contemplating a hypothetical one.

What I am saying is, the subject needs to be *taboo* and discussed in a purely noncommittal way.

I am, looking out for Snarkpit. I personally don't care if you kill yourselves doing drugs. Just remember to spell my name correctly in the will. The law frowns on typos.





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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 17th at 12:48am 2006


fair point, but a little more elaboration in the future would be appreciated. i misinterpreted your first post


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Posted by wil5on on Mon Apr 17th at 12:58am 2006


? quoting Spartan
I can honestly say I've never taken drugs. I've never even drank alchohol before. It's not because I'm against it or afraid of it, I just never saw a reason to take drugs or drink.

Thats pretty much how I feel about it. I dont really see much point in taking drugs.

I think they should be allowed, people being addicted to illegal things doesnt really get anyone anywhere, and if you want to take drugs, it doesnt bother me.




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Apr 17th at 1:19am 2006


experience is the best teacher....as much as it pains me to say that....

its the only way you could have told me anything when i was a young'un....

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Posted by FatStrings on Mon Apr 17th at 2:46am 2006


im not gonna lie i drink and i've done some "mild" drugs
but i only do it with certain people and very rarely
i've never known any harm to come of it and many of us have found stress relief in it





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Posted by GreenDragon on Mon Apr 17th at 3:10am 2006


Those who know me (both in real life and on www) know I'm a party freak. Hell this weekend is just a regular example, I havent gone to bed before it gets light out as I'm too busy dancing/drinking and having a good time with everyone. I do smoke pot, its a little more legal in canada, escpecially bc which is where I live as there is hardly a sould who hasn't smoked it.

Me and some buddies recently stopped as a result of a bad trip, it was laced with something and we were getting too careless with it. It was a learning lesson and were never going to goto other sources for weed. We stopped for a couple of months and this weekend we shared a joint from our usual source. IMHO weed is fine as long as used sparely, everyday is excessive. But to have a couple of beers, smoke a joint to lift up a little bit is fine by me. Its the people that smoke up nonstop just sitting at home watching tv that i disagree with.



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Posted by Hugh on Mon Apr 17th at 8:52am 2006


I don't have a problem with pot/salvia, a slight problem with stuff like LSD/shrooms, and a pretty big problem with heroin/cocaine. Er, people using them, that is. I've only done pot and the last time was a few months ago (I still get called a pothead, of course).

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Posted by reaper47 on Mon Apr 17th at 10:15am 2006


What I like about America (or some states I know at least) is that smoking cigartettes is almost considered "uncool" or at least not as widely spread as in Europe. IMHO one of the worst drug around here isn't even illegal. Every 12 year old is smoking here. Probably the smartest thing Ozzy Osbourne ever said is that nicotine is the worst because it costs a lot, ruins your lungs and doesn't even make you high. From all the stuff people are drinking and smoking around here plain cigarettes are what I can resist most easily. That doesn't mean I never smoked anything. But I find cigarettes to be one of the most idiotic additctions of our society.

I stay away from hard drugs. I see them as good feelings on credit which you eventually have to pay back, with interests. In one form or another.




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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 17th at 11:59am 2006


cannibis here where i live (generally britain i think) is so commonplace. last saturday i was walking through the busy city centre and i saw at least two people blatanly smoking joints. what amazed me about that was that it was in the middle of town with so many people around. personally i prefer a little privacy. it is very easy to get hold of. difference is, is that over here its resin, weed or grass is a little more rare


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Posted by Orpheus on Mon Apr 17th at 12:32pm 2006


? quoting rival
last saturday i was walking through the busy city centre and i saw at least two people blatanly smoking joints. what amazed me about that was that it was in the middle of town with so many people around.

Blatant example of human nature. If enough people do something wrong long enough, it becomes less wrong.

I think society has pushed this "Mind your own business" to the extreme. My wife is one of those people. If someone is in the 20 items or less checkout with 50 items, she won't say a word. If someone is parked in a tow away zone, she says nothing. She really gets mad at me when I do speak up and on many occasions has left me standing there while I rant.

My favorite thing to do is come out of the grocery store and notice that someone is parked illegally. I turn my head away and act like I cannot see them and drive my buggy right into their nice paint job. I look startled and exclaim "Man, I'm sorry, didn't you know that you weren't supposed to park there?"

Its such a blast to see them grumble. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">





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Posted by reaper47 on Mon Apr 17th at 1:09pm 2006


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My favorite thing to do is come out of the grocery store and notice that someone is parked illegally. I turn my head away and act like I cannot see them and drive my buggy right into their nice paint job. I look startled and exclaim "Man, I'm sorry, didn't you know that you weren't supposed to park there?"
Its such a blast to see them grumble. image


omg Orpheus, you're mean! <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">
But I perfetly understand what you're saying. Dog s**t is a real problem here in Vienna. In theory you get a fine for not cleaning up you dog's excrements but the police never executes this. They claim to have "more important things to do". But it makes an otherwise perfectly clean city look disgusting at places. It's ridiculous. No-one cares at all.




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Posted by rival on Mon Apr 17th at 3:10pm 2006


? quoting reaper47

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My favorite thing to do is come out of the grocery store and notice that someone is parked illegally. I turn my head away and act like I cannot see them and drive my buggy right into their nice paint job. I look startled and exclaim "Man, I'm sorry, didn't you know that you weren't supposed to park there?"
Its such a blast to see them grumble.



omg Orpheus, you're mean!
But I perfetly understand what you're saying. Dog s**t is a real problem here in Vienna. In theory you get a fine for not cleaning up you dog's excrements but the police never executes this. They claim to have "more important things to do". But it makes an otherwise perfectly clean city look disgusting at places. It's ridiculous. No-one cares at all.

always wanted to visit vienna, but Im not quite sure any more....




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Apr 17th at 5:15pm 2006


im gonna make an assumption here, but i figure big jon has been thru enough s**t in his life to warrant these kinds of outbursts...i do it as well....it must be that agism thing again, because the older i get, the less bulls**t i can stand....the last time i bit my toungue was at the store, where i was bruttally bashed by an old lady with a grocery cart, who not only bloodied my knuckles, but left a 3 x 12 bruise up the middle of my leg.....and she didnt say s**t...my youngest was with me, so i used it as a lesson for both courtesy, and respect.....and limped all the way to the damn truck.

point is, you guys think we are mean, and ornery, and constpated, or whatever, but i guaran-damn-tee ya, after about 4 decades of bulls**t, ya get to where ya cant take it as lightly as you used to....and all you young bucks will figure this out eventually....*crosses fingers....

and jon, you cantankerous old SOB.....give em hell brother, i wouldnt want you to be any other way than honest, with us, and yerself... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

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Posted by gimpinthesink on Mon Apr 17th at 5:38pm 2006


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cannibis here where i live (generally britain i think) is so commonplace. last saturday i was walking through the busy city centre and i saw at least two people blatanly smoking joints. what amazed me about that was that it was in the middle of town with so many people around. personally i prefer a little privacy. it is very easy to get hold of. difference is, is that over here its resin, weed or grass is a little more rare


Yeh where I work everyother person you see is a chav and you can smell the pot when they walk past and its usually packed in the street aswell and they just wander through everyone smoking away.



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