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Re: Has anybody seen this game yet?
Posted by reaper47 on Wed May 3rd at 10:11am 2006


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The last game I got wet over was Unreal 2. In fact, its the only game I have completed in .... Since Duke Nukem 3d. image
No game has captured my attention really.


Wow, not even HL2? It has a slightly more satisfying endgame than HL1. The better gravity gun is worth playing through the later levels.




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Posted by Naklajat on Wed May 3rd at 11:33am 2006


? quoting "Finger"
When I watch the Prey videos, I look past the normal mapped, Doom'esque imagery, and see the cool stuff like -

- Spirit mode (dual states)

- Wall walking

- Spherical worlds

- Dynamic Gravity

... and from the looks of the videos, their seems to be a certain 'flair' to the execution that gives me hope that it won't be 'Doomed'.

I'd like to add to this list - Portals

I wasn't paying any attention to this game, since all I had seen before was generic Doom 3 style environments and mediocre-looking weapons. Seeing these newer trailers I think I'll be watching this one closely. I saw quite a few puzzles in these trailers, definitely a good thing. I also like the fact that there are huge monsters, It's always fun to blow away creatures many times your size. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> The developers seem to know what makes a game engaging. And the multiplayer looked pretty nuts.

Back to mediocre weapons... they seem to plague most shooters nowadays. The weapons in most games just don't "feel" right. I think too much priority is put on the "pretty" aspect, and not enough on solid animations and good sounds. If I don't feel like my gun can make bloody goo out of aliens it makes the game less fun IMO. Maybe my standards are too high though.



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 11:45am 2006


One part of gaming that I'd like to see return is teleporters that teleport the round you fired at the person escaping. To many times I missed a kill in HL because the RPG exploded on the wall behind the machine. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">



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Posted by ReNo on Wed May 3rd at 12:06pm 2006


I can't figure out what you are talking about for the life of me, Orph <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> Something about teleporters that teleport your bullets into the enemy? You seem to suggest its something that used to be in lots of games in the past but isn't now, so I'm not really sure if I'm getting you right because I don't really recall that. Also, whats this about RPG explosions "behind the machine" - what machine? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/confused.gif">





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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 12:24pm 2006


In Duke Nukem, you could fire an RPG round into a teleporter and it would vanish.

In Half-Life the RPG round continues on, even if it passes right through the teleporter.

In Duke, you couldn't dodge into a teleporter to escape. In HL you can.

Machine = general design of the teleporter. Be it just a pad, or an elaborate construction.

Anyway, I want a teleporter, that teleports anything that passes into it.

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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Wed May 3rd at 12:52pm 2006


Q4 DM teleports projectiles. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

As for Prey, the portals can have entire firefights going on straight through them, and I imagine in MP as well (they have the crazy wall walking and such in there, too).

Crono, I think you're being unfairly harsh on this one. :P Game has a fantastic premise that just happens to be paired with a pretty cool graphics engine and some great content. It's still a simple game at its core, sure, but so many of the best (Half-Life) are.

I think this game has the potential, key word "potential," to give that sort of classic Half-Life feeling. We'll see when it comes out, I guess, but I'm guessing this will be one of the best shooters of the last few years.

Oh, and Belg: Yes, new Wolf. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/655/655726p1.html



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Posted by Juim on Wed May 3rd at 1:01pm 2006


If I'm not mistaken, you can teleport barrels in HL2. I've thrown them into teleporters and had them explode at the destination several times. I cant recall about standard ammunition though.

On a side note, I just purchased "Computer Games" magazine yesterday,because the cover story was about Prey, and it looks awesome. There was also a sidebar about Duke Nukem Forever. Basically here are some quotes from 3d Realms George Broussard:

"We F***ed up" George Broussard says."Basically, we threw everything out and started again".

The first thing is that Duke Nukem Forever is well underway. "We've been Tech complete for a year".

The second thing is that 3D Realms trademark sense of humor is still intact."Duke is a mans man, He drinks, he smokes, he enjoys women."

"Every other game that comes out is World War II or dead serious.Duke is about being the ultimate alien ass kicker".

Theres some more about the technology, and a tech demo where Broussard gives Duke the interviewers e-mail address and Duke heads over to a computer, types and sends an e-mail, which the interviewer actually recieves on his home computer.

And the third thing is that interactivity is still a big part of what 3D Realms wants to accomplish."You should reward the player for playiong around with the world".

Thats it in a nutshell, no dates (of course) but actual recent proof that DNF is still alive.





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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 2:02pm 2006


? quoting KungFuSquirrel
Q4 DM teleports projectiles.

Great, now all I need is DSL and we're all set. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">

Great news there Juim. I just fear that Duke will be old, about 2 years before it hits the shelves. They have taken so long now that if its not at least the U2 engine, then it will most assuredly will be old.





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Posted by ReNo on Wed May 3rd at 4:47pm 2006


If it's an Unreal Engine 2.x based game, it's already old Orph <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> If it's UE3 however, that's a different story.

Are they licensing an engine for it or developing one in-house? After all this time, I'd be inclined to hope it is the latter.






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Posted by Dred_furst on Wed May 3rd at 5:12pm 2006


I gotta say unreal 2 was quite an awesome looking graphics, and its older than HL2. Only downside is is the plot


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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 5:40pm 2006


? quoting ReNo
If it's an Unreal Engine 2.x based game, it's already old Orph
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True, but still serviceable. The U2 engine is hardly obsolete. But, originally it was supposed to be? The Q2 engine. Then they scrapped a nearly complete game for the U1 engine.. A step up to be sure but with its age, the U1 engine is obsolete now. I'd expect that simply upgrading to the U2 engine would be simpler than beginning from scratch again with the U3 engine... I doubt they can upgrade 2 whole engines with one step.

I'd settle for the U2 engine. Its still powerful as hell and runs smooth on almost any medium sized PC now.





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Posted by ReNo on Wed May 3rd at 6:37pm 2006


Last I heard about DNF was that it was essentially just a collection of test levels, and that there wasn't really any game content. If that really was the case, then it will be quite some time before the game hits, and if it isn't gonna be in the shops until this time next year, it really won't be able to compete if it is using UE2.





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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 6:47pm 2006


? quoting ReNo
Last I heard about DNF was that it was essentially just a collection of test levels, and that there wasn't really any game content. If that really was the case, then it will be quite some time before the game hits, and if it isn't gonna be in the shops until this time next year, it really won't be able to compete if it is using UE2.

Why?

Looks? U2 has graphics out the yin-yang.

I know that the U3 engine is going to whip its socks off but, the U3 engine will require another PC upgrade. U2 doesn't and it still looks modern enough to be counted as new.

Besides, people are still discovering HL1. How much older is that?

In the end, I don't think it will be graphics that sell Duke. It will be a combination of two elements.

1) Its been on the drawing board since before some of these kids were born. It will be bought for its legendary history.

2) Its content. Nothing beats Duke for originality and bravado.

Duke 3d set the standard to which many games were compared to for a long time.

[EDIT] Sorry, I dunno where that D stuff came from. My bad.





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Posted by ReNo on Wed May 3rd at 6:56pm 2006


What are you talking about with D2/D3? The Doom series? It doesn't sound like it, but thats normally what people refer to when using those terms.

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Nothing beats Duke for originality


Bwahahahahahaha <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif"> Maybe the bravado bit is true, but Duke isn't quite "steeped in originality" as far as I'm concerned.






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Posted by Crono on Wed May 3rd at 7:08pm 2006


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Crono, I think you're being unfairly harsh on this one. image Game has a fantastic premise that just happens to be paired with a pretty cool graphics engine and some great content. It's still a simple game at its core, sure, but so many of the best (Half-Life) are.


I didn't say it was a bad thing, just unoriginal and plot-less (appearance so far)

I mean ... I love Far Cry and there's more plot in the games description than the actual game.

Half-Life, in general, feels larger than the plot you're shown in the games, just because, there's an obvious back-story (whether it's ever actually been developed or not) it feels like there's thought put into many aspects. I'm sure that's not true and it's all an illusion, but eh.

Plot-less games have their place. But seriously, this game does look a bit boring. The only thing that caught my interest was the dynamic gravity in that cube the player was standing in and shooting opposite sides to change gravity direction (and some of the portal stuff). I'm sure it's just that those videos don't show that much of the game, because being able to attack people from all directions is a cool idea.

MAN, D and D2 were awesome games. (I'm not talking about Doom here)



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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 7:14pm 2006


? quoting ReNo


Bwahahahahahaha Maybe the bravado bit is true, but Duke isn't quite "steeped in originality" as far as I'm concerned.

Hold on a sec. We're talking about a game over a decade old now? Or nearly so.

Up to that time, no game came close to Dukes simulated 3d environment. It also had a character all its own. Show me one game up to that time that Duke resembled?

Duke was original at that time.





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Posted by ReNo on Wed May 3rd at 8:11pm 2006


I agree U2 does look good, and some of the maps in UT2004 in particular are really beautiful. But if DNF comes out on the U2 engine AFTER there have been games released on the U3 engine, it's NOT going to look "new" - it's gonna look like a game that's been in development for 10 years only to come out as a sorry second-rate game using old tech. Saying that people are still discovering HL1 isn't relevant in the slightest either - people discover old games all the time, but that doesn't mean that if they were to hit retail now they would be regarded as good.

Duke Nukem was fairly original at the time, but you said "Nothing beats Duke for originality...", and that is a whole different kettle of fish. Katamari Damacy, Jet Set Radio, Parappa The Rapper - those and many more are far more original games than a standard fare FPS featuring some bad-ass talkin' action hero.






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Posted by Orpheus on Wed May 3rd at 8:23pm 2006


Hmm.. I will lay you odds. No matter what engine they use, DNF will sell record numbers.

I personally do not see them remaking the game for a 4th time, just to use the U3 engine... Its taken years just to get..... Well no place.

I just don't see them wasting more time on another engine. Its simply not economical.





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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Wed May 3rd at 9:53pm 2006


hmm, I think you guys aren't watching the latest videos. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Ones on the prey site look like older stuff.

Check out the 'super trailer' (http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=8691) and latest gameplay video (http://www.fileshack.com/file.x?fid=8715); there's a lot of really impressive stuff.



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Posted by ReNo on Wed May 3rd at 10:22pm 2006


The fact the game still exists isn't economical, yet somehow it still does Orph <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

Anyway, I think our argument is a moot point anyway, as I don't see any reason why it would be a UE2 game, so we're debating something that most likely won't even occur.

What do you mean by record numbers though? Are you talking actual records, or just using it as a figure of speech? I'm inclined to think it will sell well, if only because people will want to see what the hell took them so long, but whether or not it becomes a record breaker will be down to quality. I think it will need to be one hell of a record breaker if it's gonna recoup all the development costs though <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">







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