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Posted by DocRock on Mon May 8th at 10:35pm 2006

This is a video about 9-11.

If you are comfortable with your opinion on 9-11, don't watch this video because it will change your mind.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change





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Posted by Gwil on Mon May 8th at 10:45pm 2006

It's good, but there's a lot that can be debunked. The parts which concerned me where there apparent controlled explosions - but I figure they can relate to the nature of the collapse (you need to read the explanations behind the collapse - everything was being pulled inward, forcing matter out) and also the FBI confiscating the Pentagon footage.

BTW for those who don't know, it's an hour and 20 minutes long.

He makes some interesting points about the cellphone calls too - very stunted.




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Posted by Orpheus on Mon May 8th at 10:47pm 2006

I strongly suspect after clicking the link that this is not a 56k friendly video.

I'll have to pass. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">





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Posted by Gwil on Mon May 8th at 10:50pm 2006

Someone on another forum was pointing out the eagerness with which Cheney et al embrace the PATRIOT Act and their links to past admins who concoted plans based on terrorism.

Also - I guess, the more unfeasible the conspiracy, the more likely it is to be believed as true.

edit: Doc, have a look at this -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_Change_%28video%29






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Posted by Windows 98 on Mon May 8th at 11:46pm 2006

An friggin hour long. Sorry but i too will pass on this one.


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Posted by Stadric on Mon May 8th at 11:59pm 2006

I saw it, that's amazing.
The thing with steel's melting point is that it doesn't have to be reached to break steel, it just has to heat it up to the point of slight maleability, in which case it will bend and/or break more easily.
As for the Pentagon's lawn, I think that is a very very very very good point.
I was already suspicious.



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Posted by Gwil on Tue May 9th at 12:30am 2006

You're not watching it because it's an hour long?

I give up all hope for humanity, I really do...




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Posted by French Toast on Tue May 9th at 1:29am 2006

There was another video I remember, that showed which cameras would have captured the "plane" crash into the Pentagon, and one was a gas station. A few hours after the crash the tape was confiscated and they still won't show it.

But yeah... there's somethin fishy.




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Posted by FatStrings on Tue May 9th at 1:47am 2006

i'm going to have to pass as well due to another bout of 56k woes
from what you have said concerning the video though i have a similar video concerning the Oklahomah City Bombing
i would post it but my connections to slow and it's 2.5 hrs long




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Posted by fishy on Tue May 9th at 2:45am 2006

? quoting French Toast
There was another video I remember, that showed which cameras would have captured the "plane" crash into the Pentagon, and one was a gas station. A few hours after the crash the tape was confiscated and they still won't show it.

But yeah... there's somethin fishy.

f**k all to do with fishy.....

and aye, it mentions those tapes in the vid, which claims minutes instead of hours. tapes from the sheraton hotel, too.

i was already leaning towards believing this sort of stuff, and watching this has made me lean more.




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Posted by Naklajat on Tue May 9th at 9:20am 2006

I saw that a while ago, I had already seen other things on the topic and done some research, so a lot of it wasn't new to me, but yes it's a very good video. Cheney was in charge of NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) that day IIRC, and ordered the fighter jets to maintain very slow speeds, which made it so they could not possibly reach the hijacked planes. I'm a little rusty on the facts, but Larry Silverstein (the leasee of the WTC buildings) took out a huge insurance policy a few months before 9/11/2001 that specifically covered acts of terrorism. He made billions from the attacks.

Also, some info I've found out from various sources: there were no "pods" and probably no "seperate flashes." Those were shadows of the landing gear compartments, and the noses of the aircraft hitting the buildings, respectively. And the video floating around on the internet that shows a missile hitting the pentagon has been proven to be fake. Just FYI, because a lot of people try to skew the facts or make up new ones.

Here's the video section of Alex Jones' Prison Planet site, it's mostly clips from other sources: http://www.prisonplanet.com/video.html
I recommend Alex Jones' documentaries to anyone who wants to question what they've been told.

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Posted by BlisTer on Tue May 9th at 2:19pm 2006

thanks for sharing, docrock.

there are some truly intriguing indications and info here. especially: cellphone possibilties that high werent possible, footage around the pentagon not released, financial transactions made as if people knew 9-11 was going to happen, explosions on the lower WTC floors, half of the supposed hijackers still alive, and a lot of loose info.

Some things are contradictory, misused, or simply wrong though, for the list of comments, see here: http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/12/1787340.php

The thing that's on my mind with the whole "flight 93 landed in cleveland" theory though, is if the passengers are alive, it would be known, no ?




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Posted by Juim on Tue May 9th at 2:21pm 2006

I have mentioned before, in this very forum, that I would'nt put it past Bush and his cronies to have instigated this type of thing in the hopes of re-election, personal gain and various other assorted motives. I was quickly chastised though, and shrugged it off as a bad attempt at humor. I believe someone said it made them sick to hear such nonsense. While this documentary creates more questions than it answers, it does raise some interesting points. I still remain doubtful as to Bushes actual level of involvement, but I am convinced that his presidency is truly one of the most corrupt in history.

I also find it interesting that in a post note at the end of this video, the author eludes to a hint that this might have been nothing more than an elaborate bank heist, with close to 160 billion in gold missing.

A well crafted and seemingly well researched video to be sure. Definitely thought provoking.





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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Tue May 9th at 3:37pm 2006

I've seen this long ago. On most part it confirmed my own doubts, but some of it is a bit far fetched. The Pentagon part didn't seen right when they shoved it on TV after 9/11(or 11th of the 9th month, which ever pleases you more).



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue May 9th at 4:25pm 2006

/Me pets Juim.

Bud, if thats why you have been pouting for so long.. Jeez..





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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue May 9th at 4:51pm 2006

Before everyone blindly believes every part of this video... please take a look at the link BlisTer posted. Here it is again: http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/12/1787340.php

I'm trying to be skeptical of both sides here. I don't know for certain what happened, aside from the fact that thousands of people died.




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Posted by reaper47 on Tue May 9th at 5:12pm 2006

? quote:
You're not watching it because it's an hour long?

I give up all hope for humanity, I really do...


I'd be more interested in the file size. I have a 4Gb/month flatrate.



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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Tue May 9th at 5:17pm 2006

They didn't die... they went to a better place.



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Posted by Dark_Kilauea on Tue May 9th at 11:10pm 2006

Watch the movie, then make sure to read the website posted.

Brings some interesting thoughts about what happened.


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Posted by Gwil on Tue May 9th at 11:15pm 2006

Empirical imperialism produces ugly results. Unfortunately for the US, their golden age of domination exists under lights, cameras, action!







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