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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue May 9th at 8:10pm 2006


I'm waiting for the official word on the new Alliance race from Blizzard themselves, because the Gamespy article was kinda iffy.




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Posted by Crono on Tue May 9th at 8:53pm 2006


Something I just read about the PS3 packages, is that the only difference is not the HDD size, but options on the machine. Basically, all the snazzy stuff Sony was talking about in regard to High-Def wont really be featured on the cheaper version. Things like: HDMI output, memory sticks, compact flash, and WiFi is not supported in the base ($499 USD, $499 EU) model.

And, the 32:9 output is gone too. (In general, I think)

The other thing I didn't know is that the controller's tilt sensing is ripped off from Nintendo, so to speak. Not from the Wii-Mote, but the Nun-Chuck. So, in good news, the nun-chuck analog add on, has tilt sensativity in addition to the fully 3d movement of the Wii remote controller.

There's some really awesome descriptions of things that can be done. A ten minute demo game of Metroid Prime 3 in description sounds awesome. The grapple is executed through the nun-chuck by thrusting forward (or down, not sure) and then hold down on the analog stick to pull yourself up. That = awesome.

Although, I will admit, MGS4 looks fantastic. But not quite worth the $600 + $60 price tag.

I'm sure I'll have a PS3 eventually ... when GameStop is selling them for $50 or something <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">



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Posted by rs6 on Tue May 9th at 10:39pm 2006


There is a Halo3 video floating around the internet from E3. I don;t see anything great in Halo3. Halo2 killed the halo series for me. I hated Halo2.



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Posted by omegaslayer on Tue May 9th at 11:02pm 2006


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There is a Halo3 video floating around the internet from E3. I don;t see anything great in Halo3. Halo2 killed the halo series for me. I hated Halo2.

You ask -- and you shall recieve:
http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?link=Halo3Announcement






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Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Wed May 10th at 3:43am 2006


Ya'll should check out G4, this is the only time of the year that that channel is actually good. All week long, they have three hour live episodes on the flour, although acouple were taped maybe a couple hours before hand. But anyways:

I'm loving Will Rights next incarnation of sims, "Spore". For some reason, that game is reminding me a little of Black and White. But the idea tht you play the game offline and connect to recieve other players worlds to essentually kick up the games diversity is probably what makes me want the game sooo badly. I would be surprised if future simulation games try to do the same thing.

MGS4 is probably the one game, so far, that is featuring the best cinematic, story driven cutscenes. I mean that trailor looked great. The idea that Snake, suffering from his disease, would comence his final mission, the ultimate end. It kind reminded me of the end of MGS3 when you found out The Boss was still on your side, but to cover up US involvement, she had to forcibly bring herself to Death by the hands of her greatest deciple. Anyway, Hideo nust have a long interest in western style spy movies, just a thought.

That new game from the makers of Farcry looks interesting too.

Anyway, can't wait till tomarrows show. (Ooohhh, how I wish I could be there in person. Maybe someday when my skills are hardened and I'm actually part of the industry.)



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Posted by Crono on Wed May 10th at 8:06pm 2006


Hey look an initial Light Gun shell design for Wii at Nintendo's Booth:

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Also announced a Resident Evil and New Duck Hunt for Wii and probably the most iimpressive launch catalog for a console I've seen in my entire life.

If you haven't seen the Red Steel gameplay footage either, I suggest you check it out, it's pretty cool looking (for a console FPS) ... check IGN or something for videos.



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Posted by French Toast on Wed May 10th at 8:51pm 2006


...image?



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Posted by Crono on Thu May 11th at 12:10am 2006


It's something I've noticed the SP does from time to time, right click and say view image or something. It'll load into your cache... blah blah blah.


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Posted by ReNo on Thu May 11th at 12:23am 2006


The Red Steel trailer was awesome, but I am a bit sceptical about its complete authenticity. I know its available to play at the show, and I've no doubt the trailer is fairly accurate, but a few things looked questionable to me. The biggest thing was the uber-smooth, uber-contextual animations. Maybe they just did a great job with it, but when the guy shoots a shotgun blast at somebody and they literally bend their body out of the way and smoothly run down the stairs, or shoots the handgun at the sword-wielding guy running at him at the end and he jumps away from the bullet perfectly, I was a bit doubtful. Also, the way that the player holds the sword up to the end guy's neck - I'm assuming that is a cutscene or else this game has the best interaction with NPCs I've ever come across.

I'm sure it's all in game and everything, I just feel it might have been spruced up a little with some hard-scripted stuff that won't happen during gameplay.

EDIT: Also meant to mention that that gun thing looks like crap, as does their more traditional controller. Seriously, it's like they've decided to revamp their old SNES stuff. Ergonomics out the window <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> It's sad to see these things looking so...well...crap, when the new controller itself is so awesome.

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Posted by French Toast on Thu May 11th at 12:40am 2006


They put the buttons in the wrong spot. I'm used to Xbox.




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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 11th at 12:47am 2006


This may be a dumb question so don't laugh. I ask in all seriousness.

Do they make consoles with peripherals like a mouse and keyboard?

My main complaint about consoles is they game pads. I have nightmares about Nintendo thumb. Believe it or not, I did play consoles once. The pain was excruciating.

I might consider them again if I could navigate with a keyboard and mouse interface.





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Posted by ReNo on Thu May 11th at 1:37am 2006


They are generally available, but not often well supported. I don't really know many games that offer keyboard and mouse support on the consoles. Maybe now that the consoles are typically using USB connections for the controllers they will support standard keyboards and mice, and it might see more developer support? I don't know to be honest, not something I've really concerned myself with as I oh so love control pads image

Have you tried some of the newer control pads, such as the new Xbox 360 pad? They have come a long way in the past 10 years...

...even if that picture of the new Nintendo one suggests otherwise image

EDIT: Oh god, I just watched the Dead Or Alive: Extreme 2 trailer. Oh...oh god...how shameless can Team Ninja get? I felt pervy enough buying the first one but this...this?! The bouncing...the dirty, dirty bouncing <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">

http://xbox360.1up.com/do/gameOverview?cId=3150180






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Posted by Orpheus on Thu May 11th at 1:42am 2006


Thankfully, my sons have more/less grown up and moved out. In any case, I prolly won't have to buy any more consoles.

If I ever buy another, it will be for my own use.

The last ones I bought was this past Xmas. I bought 2 game cubes and 2 X-boxes.

I wasn't very impressed with either controllers.





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Posted by Finger on Thu May 11th at 2:11am 2006


TeeHee.... Walking through E3 today, I brushed shoulders with Gabe Newell... it was pretty surreal.

Things look pretty awesome. Lots of good looking games (but less booth-babes 'cry'). Oh, and first thing I saw walking in wasTony Hawk skating a halfpipe - f'in rad.

I'll give a full report of my impressions sometime soon - once I recover from this gamma-ray induced migrane.





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Posted by Crono on Thu May 11th at 4:47am 2006


Reno, the gun design is apparently not even close to final. Anyways, it's a shell, by no means manditory, keep that in mind.

Also, the sword play in Red Steel, as I understand it, is not real time the same way gun play is. It's like, do a specific motion to pull off a special move type deal. At least, that's how it was described. Also, I doubt that the guy was actually playing Red Steel at all. Best bet is that the screen is simulated with stock gameplay footage or something like that. And, I'm not sure what you mean by too smooth ... I know the game, like godfather, allows you to pinpoint certain bodie parts. If you've played GF, by the way, you'll see it's rather smooth ... at least in that aspect, don't mention the clunky controls regarding everything else. In any case we'll find out this year. (I also hear there is some physics processing going on. In the SMG gameplay it seems like there's some fabric physics and such ... so it isn't like it's impossible or anything, but we'll see)

I wouldn't really trust renders, to be honest. Most of them are mock ups done by fans anyway. And, seriously ... I'm sure Nintendo will release stuff in the same style that looks good. They always have.

Orph, the controllers are far more comfortable than they were with something like ... the NES. Even the SNES controller is leaps and bounds in comfort. I rarely have sore hands or thumbs from playing games for many hours. Anyway using a keyboard and mouse does more damage to your wrist, so.

But, yeah, you can usually buy keyboard and mice for a console. The PS2, for example, has USB ports and supports normal keyboard and mice (you need an HDD though)

The Xbox can surely be easily modified if there isn't a connector already.

It's just, if you're talking about the Wii ... really, for a lot of the games a keyboard and mouse would be less effective, if they deliver what they're showing, that is.

Also, just to note, Gears of War looks pretty awesome ... but it just looks like it should be on PC. The look controls look awkward and the entire thing looks like it was made for a kb-m layout ... but they're using a controller instead or something. Still a cool looking game image


[EDIT]

I just started looking at some of the new Crysis stuff ...

DROOL!

Here's your PC game, Orph image (I'm sure a new Age of Empires or Civilization or some crap like that is coming out too)

[EDIT 2]

Reno, my mistake, that render is real ... you can see the reflection in the picture I posted image

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I just keep finding stuff.

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707263p1.html

Says Havok physics engine is used by several Wii games



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Posted by Y2kBen_2000 on Thu May 11th at 5:23am 2006


Oh man, I would be sooo exhillerated if someone was to go oyut and create an fps remote that replaces the right joy with a roller mouse. Imagin how much easier console fps would be with evan a tiny roller mouse.

--By the way, Sony made the right choice with sticking to their classic controler design.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 11th at 7:46am 2006


Does anyone else here refuse to buy a console at launch? I can see myself waiting until price cuts are made and a system emerges with a clearly superior game library / future. That is if I buy any of these things at all.

After buying a Saturn and a Dreamcast (on 9/9/99) I've kinda learned my lesson.




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Posted by Crono on Thu May 11th at 8:27am 2006


I don't understand how buying a console at launch or not effects the games that come out on it within its life span ...

I understand price drops, but there's multi-platform games and usually when a particular series is tied to a company you pretty much already know what to expect ...

Sega is an oddity, to be honest, since their stragity to sell consoles was few and far between (unless you're talking about Japan, which you'd be surprised to know the Saturn was very succesful)

and are you implying that the Saturn ... or Dreamcast doesn't have a heafty library of games that are good? I mean, half the Dreamcast games published became the core games of PS2, XBX, and GCN. (Almost the entire XBOX library of good games is built off of the Dreamcast)

Saturn being an expensive system ... or having a short lifespan in the US doesn't make Panzer Dragoon Azel, Dragon Force 2, or Burning Rangers any less awesome. image

I know you have awesome games for Saturn ... and by the way, if you're pissed about being ripped off, sell some of those games, they're worth hundreds of dollars. You'll get twice the money back, at least.



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Posted by French Toast on Thu May 11th at 11:05am 2006


I'm quite content with 360 and doubt I'll wish I had a Wii.

I'm not even gonna put PS in there, it's gonna blow. Sony screwed up this time.

EDIT: Check out Wii's booth.

Wiimote... priceless <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">




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Posted by ReNo on Thu May 11th at 3:15pm 2006


I'm just gonna buy them all eventually. Maybe not at launch, but probably not too long after either.

By saying Red Steel looked too smooth, I just meant that the characters are extraordinarily realistic in their movements. Games these days often don't even bother with flinch animations when a person gets shot, instead just "ragdolling" the corpse when they are killed, but this seems to have animations crawling out of every orafice <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> If it's really like the trailer then awesome, I'm sold, but I've a feeling that playing the game will see the animations being a lot less smooth - transitions will be less seamless.







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