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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 13th at 4:12pm 2006


*growls*

I am still fuming.. Such disrespect and acting so caviler about it as if, the parents are the one with the issue/problem.

Kids these days, or any days for that matter make me wanna slap them silly.

I just hope, I actually wish them to have children just.... like....themselves.

The best part is, they most likely will. Poetic justice is so freaking unbiased.





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Posted by ReNo on Sat May 13th at 5:45pm 2006


My comment wasn't meant in respect to them not wanting it hooked up their TV, more the viewpoint that games are some sort of evil ("polluting the TV with Nintendo").

And no, I wouldn't follow any rule just because my parents set it. Face it - some rules are f**king ridiculous, and simply demand to be questioned. I'm not ungreatful to my parents - I think the world of them both and I'm thankful for the life they've provided for me - but then they don't make stupid, ignorant rules. I probably wouldn't feel the same if they demanded me in at 8pm every evening as a teenager, or only allowed me an hour a day on the computer, or didn't let me play games consoles because they are "polluting the TV".

? quoting Orpheus
Its not your place to question. Its not even your place to make excuses or even have an opinion about it. You just accept until you reach a point in your life where YOU can make the rules.


How about a rule that says they have to take any beatings you give them? That they have to give you sexual gratification? That they have to put up with the ancient, worn, too-small clothing because you'd rather spend your hard earned cash on booze, or drugs, or new PC bits? That they aren't allowed to be friends with the kids of different ethnicity or religious beliefs? Kids shouldn't question the rules eh?

Kids should respect their parents, but it works both ways. Treat your kids with all the respect of a dog, allowing no free will or decisions that contrast to your own, and they'll just come to resent you. Allow them their own interests, SUPPORT them in those interests. Thats what my parents have done every step of the way, and they would have no matter what my interests had been.

My kids want to hook up a console to the TV for a while? Go for it guys, I'll play you at Smash Brothers.






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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 13th at 6:03pm 2006


Those who pay the bills, make the rules. End of story.

I am way to angry right now to be coherent. I will get back to you when I feel like it, not when you feel like it..





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Posted by Juim on Sat May 13th at 6:08pm 2006


The thread seems to have derailed somewhat (again),

So I was standing in starbucks, when two fellows came in wearing event passes to E3.We chatted up a bit about the vendors booths, who's job it was to assemble and then dis-assemble them. Then in the same trip I get on the freeway only to be passed by 3 big black vans with "E3 guest bus" written on the sides. Oh I got to go 2 years in a row, but I've lost my ticket contact. So close and yet so far.

Woe is me.

So Finger, or Squirrel. Overall consensus on this years E3 seems to be

Sony-bad

Microsoft-good

Console games- good

PC games- so so?

Is this what I am gleening from your comments?





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Posted by Finger on Sat May 13th at 7:31pm 2006


? quote:

So Finger, or Squirrel. Overall consensus on this years E3 seems to be

Sony-bad

Microsoft-good

Console games- good

PC games- so so?

Is this what I am gleening from your comments?

From my limited viewpoint, everybody had SOME good stuff to show. I definately wouldn't say Sony = bad. Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, God of War2, Resistance:fall of man, Guitar Heros 2, Okami, all looked great.

Maybe I am getting a little jaded in my old age, but It just seems harder and harder to find those 'wow' games. My general impression of E3 (this year and last), is that we are generally flooded by a sea of mediocre games. I walk away both years feeling a little overwhelmed by the hundreds of titles competing with very similar themes, mechanics, art styles.

Also, E3 pissed me off this year. It was so much harder to see the big games. Microsoft, Nintendo, and SOny each had these showcases behind closed doors, where their primo demos were shown. I would have loved to see Gears of War, but after waiting 3 hours to play 1 Nintendo title, I pretty much said 'screw it' and went home. Overall, I don't think I really enjoy being crammed into this claustraphobic environment, elbowing through people just to get a peek at something I can rent or buy a few months down the road.

My highlight of E306.... watching Fatal1ty challenge people to a 1on1 Q4 deathmatch game. Not 1 person fragged him. Not even once. That was fun.... I just wish they would do the same with HLDM!!





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Posted by KungFuSquirrel on Sat May 13th at 8:31pm 2006


Certainly finger wouldn't be one to call the PS3 bad anyway, what with working at Insomniac and all. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif"> Anyway, my judgments are about as solid as anyone else's who watched online; sadly we're one of those not in California Activision studios that can only afford to send a handful of people per year... maybe next year. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

But yeah, I wouldn't say Sony looked 'bad' per se, but I don't think they held up comparatively to Microsoft and Nintendo, and I think looking at the combined price of those two systems equaling or possibly undercutting a ps3 could spell trouble for them. If they run into supply troubles (which they say they won't, but it's not like the ps2 was in abundance at launch), it's going to be hard for people to pass up the extensive 360 library and supply (not to mention user base) or the price and creativity appeal of the Wii. But there's no way they're going to fall behind this generation; they could sell a cardboard box with "Playstation 3" on the front and a pile of dog poo inside and still out-sell everyone... but I imagine we'll see the gap close a bit this round and maybe a new leader emerge next round. Maybe. We'll see.



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Posted by Forceflow on Sat May 13th at 9:36pm 2006


The Metal Gear Solid 4 E3 trailer looks absolutely gorgeous.

http://games.telenet.be/e3/files.php?act=get&fid=1406

(High Quality WMV)



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 13th at 10:47pm 2006


Duncan, I can rest comfortably with 2 thoughts.

You have foresight, I have hindsight. We both know which has more percentile chance of being the most accurate.

I, plan on going no where. I, have known you for a while now. I, trust that when you finally see my point, that you will courageously say so. No matter when in the future this revelation occurs.

Till then, subject dropped.

Back on topic: What location or locations do they have these displays? Is E3 just a California event?





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Spartan on Sun May 14th at 1:54am 2006


Microsoft is kicking some serious ass this E3 with the Xbox 360. So far that console seems to have the largest and most promising game line up yet. There have also been some really cool presentations for Xbox Live including the online play in Warhammer: Online between the guys on PC and Xbox 360. Rainbow 6: Las Vegas, Dead Rising, Stranglehold, Halo 3, Turok, Huxley, Bioshock, Gears of War, Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway, Mass Effect, and Splinter Cell Double Agent are some games to look forward to for the 360. I seriously doubted the 360 when it was first launched but now seeing what's coming out for it it'll be very hard for me not to buy one.

Don't worry Orpheus, there's a ton of stuff coming out for PC aswell. However most of the big stuff is going to require you to buy a new PC. If you plan to play Crysis or UT 2007 then you'll probably need one of those robot cities from The Matrix to run the games.





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Posted by Juim on Sun May 14th at 1:56am 2006


yup, Los Angeles Convention center.There are other developer conferences, but this is the big whistles and lights stop.

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by the way has anybody seen this one?

Heavy rain

Looks like an art piece, but the model and animations are absolutely unreal.Go to Gametrailers.com and look up Heavy Rain. Outside links apparently are verboten.

http://www.gametrailers.com

heavy rain




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Posted by Dr Brasso on Sun May 14th at 2:26am 2006


pretty damn nice juim..almost spooky....where will it be in 3-5 years.....wow.

sounds like e3 was more of a rock concert this year.....never been, but it sounds like...a stones concert....lol i'd love to be a fly on the wall in there....

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Posted by ReNo on Sun May 14th at 3:45am 2006


The Heavy Rain thing was both impressive and disappointing in my opinion. Beautiful in general, and the animation was superb, but her face just looked awful. The corners of her mouth in particular <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">

Orph - I think the kids and the parents are always gonna disagree on that topic really <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> I stand by my view, but I agree that arguing over it isn't gonna get us anywhere.






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Posted by Juim on Sun May 14th at 4:00am 2006


Yes the mouth has some problems. Mostly I think its a shadowing problem. You see they have mapped out all the facial muscles, but theres something missing, like a minute shadowing which occurs around the mouth and teeth when a person talks. This lack of shadowing makes for a rigid and unreal facial expression. You notice that they have gotten some pretty believable emoting from the lower mouth and chin muscles. Its the upper lip where the problem lies.

still though, damn fine tech demo.





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Posted by Crono on Sun May 14th at 9:35am 2006


From the look of it it seems they motion captured everything VERY well ... except her mouth. They should have done that when getting the voice over.

The hair was physics.

it looks like they planned on animating the lips on their own without motion capture ... and they just haven't gotten to it or something.

Other than that it was really nice. My animation major buddies tell me working with motion capture as an animator is a nightmare.

While it is very nice to look at and seems like an interesting game (if it really is one!) The movement isn't really all that impressive. You've been seeing this type of work in films for a while. Most notably in recent years King Kong.

It's nice to see it work in more games besides Metal Gear Solid, but doesn't make it incredibly impressive. If it weren't motion captured ... that'd be a different story.

Still cool though.



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Posted by Naklajat on Sun May 14th at 10:09am 2006


Didn't really pay much attention to E3 this year for some reason. I'm pretty stoked about ET: Quake Wars, from the trailers it looks like a sort of "Battlfield Quake." I honestly think that's one of the best online FPS ideas ever. I just hope the net code makes it playable for FPS fans who like accuracy, not just vehicles and big maps...

And I think Heavy Rain was just a tech demo.



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Posted by reaper47 on Sun May 14th at 1:22pm 2006


Speaking of tech-demo graphics. Anyone heared of the next game from the creators of Max Payne? It also has a guy's name in the title ( "Alan Wake" if I remember correctly) and seems to be a very open, adventure/horror game (like Trespasser done well and with a good story). I expected to see something in the E3 news this year.



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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Sun May 14th at 1:25pm 2006


Alan Wake is only coming to XBox 360 and Windows Vista. Shame really, I would've liked to play it, but nothing is going to make me get Vista. I rather change to Linux than put that piece of s**t on my computer... And I have never been in the habit of getting any consoles, although I don't have anything against their exsistence(except for the fact that they ruined PC gaming).



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Posted by Juim on Sun May 14th at 3:14pm 2006


Here is the link to Alan Wake movie.

http://www.alanwake.com/movies.html





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Posted by Naklajat on Sun May 14th at 3:53pm 2006


lol I remember Trespasser. That game was so bad. It was fun to turn on god mode and beat the dinosaurs to death with the baseball bat.

The Alan Wake trailer didn't tell me anything about the game. I hate trailers like that :P. Nice graphics though.

OTT:
Vista in its current form is like ME, really really buggy. But I'm at least hoping it will be better than XP (not that there's a whole lot wrong with XP SP2). Just turn off the Aero theme. Aero = useless crap. Same with Luna. (I run the windows classic theme btw)



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Posted by Guessmyname on Sun May 14th at 7:20pm 2006


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