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Posted by Windows 98 on Thu May 11th at 3:49am 2006


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A German man who killed and ate an apparently willing victim has been sentenced to life in prison after he was found guilty of murder.

Armin Meiwes, 44, was sentenced to eight-and-a-half years in prison in 2004 after being found guilty of the manslaughter of Bernd Juergen Brandes.

But a judge ordered a retrial after ruling the sentence was too lenient.

During the retrial, prosecutors said Meiwes, of Rotenburg, had a "fetish for human flesh" and could re-offend.

This has been one of the most extraordinary trials in German criminal history, says the BBC's Tristana Moore in Berlin.

At the retrial, the prosecution made a graphic case that Meiwes was guilty of murder and argued he should never be released from prison.

A psychologist said Meiwes, who had admitted he still had fantasies about devouring the flesh of attractive young people, could reoffend.

A video which Meiwes filmed during the acts of cannibalism was central to the prosecution's case.

It said the video proved that Meiwes killed his victim for his own sexual pleasure.

Meiwes's lawyer admitted his client had a fetish for human flesh, but claimed he was no danger to society.

Mr Brandes, a 43-year-old computer engineer, apparently agreed to the idea of being eaten after making contact with his killer on an internet chatroom. This led the court to convict Meiwes of the less serious charge of manslaughter at his trial in 2004.

The pair met at Meiwes's home in Rotenburg in March 2001, where they had sex before Meiwes cut off Brandes's penis, which the men then cooked and attempted to eat.

Meiwes later stabbed and killed Brandes, before cutting him to pieces and freezing parts of his body, some of which he later ate.


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Posted by Naklajat on Thu May 11th at 4:32am 2006


That's sick. I think there was a recent case in the US where a young man (20's IIRC) killed and ate parts of his neighbor, a 12-year-old girl. People like that need to be killed IMHO, f--k jail, just put an end to their burden on society.


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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Thu May 11th at 4:47am 2006


Ew. I don't really know what else to say to that, except I would have been fine without reading that news story.




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Posted by reaper47 on Thu May 11th at 9:00am 2006


This is a very special case. It was in the news everywhere. There's actually a movie about it that was banned because Meiwes sued the producers. There's also a Rammstein song inspired by this case called "Mein Teil" ("My part" - guess which part of the body he ate first...)

The weird thing is, his victim actually wanted to be eaten by him. He was one of 250 or so people who wrote him over the internet and there's a video that shows he actually enjoeyd it.

Phew... One of the most disturbing things that happened in the last few years.




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Posted by French Toast on Thu May 11th at 11:02am 2006


Well, if they both wanted it...




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Posted by Andrei on Thu May 11th at 11:32am 2006


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Meiwes's lawyer admitted his client had a fetish for human flesh, but claimed he was no danger to society.


Of course not.

I fail to understand how someone can say such stupid s**t and expect to be believed by a court of law.




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu May 11th at 11:47am 2006


denn du bist was du isst und ihr wisst was es ist


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Posted by Andrei on Thu May 11th at 11:50am 2006


Das ist wahr auch wenn mann pimmel isst. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/evilgrin.gif">




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu May 11th at 11:53am 2006


my german is rusty but ew




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Posted by Nickelplate on Thu May 11th at 6:06pm 2006


HAHA! I bet there's more than just an "Armin" that cannibal! (get it? "arm in")

I love german, BTW.




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Posted by Andrei on Thu May 11th at 9:01pm 2006


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I love german, BTW.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat May 13th at 1:08pm 2006


Joseph, You're home.

My heart is full once more. Stupid thread to make a reemergence in though.

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Posted by Crapceeper on Sun May 14th at 9:48am 2006


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? quote:Meiwes's lawyer admitted his client had a fetish for human flesh, but claimed he was no danger to society.



Of course not.


I fail to understand how someone can say such stupid s**t and expect to be believed by a court of law.


Well; surely this fetish is inconvenient but it's not necessarily a danger to society. Only if uncontrolled by the fetish-owner.
He just needs to pull himself together for craps sake!
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Posted by Andrei on Sun May 14th at 10:12am 2006


Perhaps, but even if he's trying to control himself that doesn't mean that he isn't dangerous. If anything, he's more dangerous than people with "normal" fetishes. And what if he really can't control himself and slices some poor prostitute in half? It would be partly the fault of those who let him go IMHO.
Oh, and given that he's already cut someone, I suppose it's pretty safe to say that his fetish isn't exactly under control.




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Posted by Crapceeper on Sun May 14th at 11:32am 2006


At that time no, his fetish wasn't under control. I totally agree with you. But since he's in custody and being cared about by a psychologist this psychologist determines wether he remains dangerous or not. I assume Armin is being treated and counselled. And such a therapist is very keen on keeping a white vest. So I can't imagine that he even would suggest to let him meet society again as long as Armin could be any danger.

And since this was stated in the report so it may be. But he can change.



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Posted by Orpheus on Sun May 14th at 11:58am 2006


? quoting Crapceeper

And since I start every second sentence with "and since" I need to reconsider my typing-style....

We had our best analysts study the subject intensively and it was determined after many bribes and threats that beginning a sentence with "And" is perfectly acceptable.





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Posted by Naklajat on Sun May 14th at 12:06pm 2006


The psychologist can't truly determine whether or not the guy would ever act on his fetish again. Even if he says with complete and utter confidence that Armin won't go cut someone into pieces ever again, the only person who knows for sure is Armin himself, and only once the opportunity will never rise again (ie when he's dead). If he derived pleasure from cutting someone apart and eating them, and admittedly fantasizes about it, chances are he'll act upon it again if given a good opportunity.

Think of it like this: Say you have a young daughter. Would you allow a convicted pedophile (who admittedly still fantasizes about young girls) to be around her just because a psychologist has stated that he "has the fetish, but isn't a danger"? I know I wouldn't.



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Posted by reaper47 on Sun May 14th at 1:27pm 2006


The bizarre thing about this case is that his "victim" without a doubt wanted this to happen. He'd probably have done it alone if he didn't find Meiwes. There is no doubt about it at all. At no point he "lost control" over himself. This was all planned and mutally agreed. It's like a weird form of euthanasia.



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Posted by French Toast on Sun May 14th at 1:54pm 2006


He got life.




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Posted by Crapceeper on Sun May 14th at 10:44pm 2006


Baron,


Sometimes we don't know ourselfes what we are capeable of doing. Very ironic. I know what I want to do, and I know what I don't want to do. But I do have fears of becoming someone I don't want to be.
Don't you?

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Think of it like this: Say you have a young daughter. Would you allow a convicted pedophile (who admittedly still fantasizes about young girls) to be around her just because a psychologist has stated that he "has the fetish, but isn't a danger"? I know I wouldn't.


I know I will never have a daugter...
But say I knew this dude hangin around with her very well and his side of the story I would consider; as long I see no potential* danger. But as soon there is anything suspect I would stop the contact between them. Even if he's a nice guy.

I would do the same with my son as well (even if I will never have one, too)

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