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Posted by Stadric on Tue Jun 6th at 5:38am 2006

I'm chock full of stuff like that, Doc. On the topics of:
evolution
global warming
radiation
DDT
Stem cells
cloning

It's good to learn.
Because knowledge is power!

EDIT:
Oh yeah, and marijuana too.


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Posted by reaper47 on Tue Jun 6th at 9:50am 2006

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You are aware that AIDS isn't really that much of a problem in Africa, right?


That's nothing but a conspiracy theory. Do you have any responsible sources for that? It's hard enough to propagate condoms anyway, now if the church even says it's a sin to use them (although the official statement from the pope was changed recently) there is no hope at all to make people in Africa use them. The infections could be reduced by high rates. And after so many years of missonary work people in Afrika tend to listen to the church more than people in Europe or the US.

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I still don't understand what gravity actually is. I mean all of the explanations are about what gravity does but not what it is. For me physics always entered a stage of "magic" when it comes to the power of attraction between two objects. There must be something in between otherwise the force is nothing but pure magic.



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 6th at 10:02am 2006

Next time I worry about My replies ruining your thread Gwil, remind me exactly how far "Off topic" is again.

This thread went over hill and yon while i was gone.





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Posted by Gwil on Tue Jun 6th at 10:08am 2006

I was trying to steer us away from "Religion is brainwashing/God is made up" as it happens, as I know people love to dive into that pointless and prejudiced debate.




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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Jun 6th at 10:53am 2006

Well, when I get back I plan on reading many of these replies. I am particularly interested in many. I am curious to read something that doesn't involve being hit with the bible in the back of the skull.



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Posted by Gwil on Tue Jun 6th at 10:57am 2006

:P

I mainly wanted to avoid arguments about the rights and wrongs of religion, which people seem to have done well enough. When those guys started discussing balls on trampolines it was off topic, but good natured and random enough to leave alone.

Add to the fact I hadn't a f**king clue what they were talking about!




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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Jun 6th at 3:09pm 2006

? quoting Addicted to Morphine
I'm not religious and I highly doubt there is a God.

Mind if I ask why? It's interesting to me.




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Posted by Addicted to Morphine on Tue Jun 6th at 3:40pm 2006

Edit: I just remembered that gwil wants to keep all sorts of discussion out of this thread, so I'm moving my reply to a new one.



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Posted by Stadric on Wed Jun 7th at 1:05am 2006

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Do you have any responsible sources for that?


Did you even read my post?
On a side note, do you have any credible proof that AIDS is actually a problem in Africa? I'm not talking about media sources, I'm talking about actual scientific facts.

By the way, AIDS rates in the US are still predominantly black male. The ironic thing about using AIDS as a conspiracy is that it puts everyone at risk for AIDS, and therefore a potential customer.

Heh, heh, heh, those greedy people and their money.



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Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jun 7th at 11:25am 2006

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Did you even read my post?

On a side note, do you have any credible proof that AIDS is actually a problem in Africa? I'm not talking about media sources, I'm talking about actual scientific facts.


I read your post. And it sounds like a conspiracy theory. It just does. How many percent of false tests would be necessary to say that HIV isn't really that much of a problem in Africa?



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Posted by fishy on Wed Jun 7th at 12:04pm 2006

i still don't get the two marbles on a sphere thing. like, if i start on the tropic of capricorn and someone else starts on the tropic of cancer, and we both start moving west, don't we keep moving west, parallel to each other, without ever meeting?


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Posted by mazemaster on Wed Jun 7th at 5:00pm 2006

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i still don't get the two marbles on a sphere thing. like, if i start on the tropic of capricorn and someone else starts on the tropic of cancer, and we both start moving west, don't we keep moving west, parallel to each other, without ever meeting?


For a minute forget that you are on the tropic of capricorn and pretend you are on the equator and start traveling west. You will stay on the equator and travel around the earth on a circular path with maximum radius (the equator's radius). These circular paths are called great circles.

Now if you are on the tropic of capricorn, I claim that the situation is exactly the same because of the symmetric properties of a sphere - you are just somewhere on a sphere moving in some initial direction. Lets say I take a ball and draw one point "A" on the equator and another point "B" on the tropic of capricorn, and then I draw tiny* arrows indicating the initial direction at each point. If I randomly rotate the ball around and then hand it to you and say "one of these arrows points along the equator, which one?", then there is nothing you can do tell which one it is. It is equally valid to say that "B" is on the equator and "A" is on the tropic of cancer as it is to say that "A" is on the equator and "B" is on the tropic of capricorn.

Suppose you are on the tropic of capricorn heading west. Rotate and redraw your coordinate system (the lines of lattitude and longitude) so that you are on the equator in the new coordinate system, and so that the new equator is tangent to your initial direction (west) at your initial position. Since the situation is the same in this new coordinate system as it would have been if you were at the equator, you must also travel in a great circle.

The same thing applies for the person at the tropic of cancer or any other position on the sphere. They will also travel in a great circle. Now try to draw 2 great circles on a sphere (where each circle has the same radius as the sphere and is an equator in some rotated coordinate system). Nomatter how you draw it, the circles must cross.

*the arrows must be infinitely tiny for a truly unknowable situation, or alternatively I could glue (finite length) toothpicks tangent to the ball at those points.


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Posted by Stadric on Wed Jun 7th at 8:08pm 2006

Somewhere in the high seventies, if not higher, which is a pretty good estimate, considering how big a problem Malaria has always been in Africa.


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