I don't believe in God
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Re: I don't believe in God
Posted by Nickelplate on Sat Jun 24th at 5:47am 2006


There cannot be answers to EVERYTHING. And I don't have all the ones that exist, just as you who beleive wholly in science cannot give me every answer to every scientific question I could ask you.

I don't think God has an origin per se, since before the universe there was no time, there was no way he could have started or ended. I guess since humans cannot really fully comprehend infinity there is no way we can understand how God just always was/is/will be.

Bringing a mass murderer to jail is not fair. What about all the people he killed? Where is the "fair" for them? Puting him in jail will not bring back his victims. If the justice system is so mighty, why can it not stop him before he commits the crime?

As for "because god said so:" Yes, when you break everything in existence to one final question, we all must choose an answer and have faith that our decision is the right one. I say "because God did it." and you say "Science will discover that some day, we just don't know now." When you break it all down to the final, ultimate question, it comes down to faith.




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Re: I don't believe in God
Posted by Cassius on Sat Jun 24th at 7:53am 2006


The final question being: why or how was the universe created?



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Re: I don't believe in God
Posted by French Toast on Sat Jun 24th at 3:11pm 2006


Why? Practical joke.



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Re: I don't believe in God
Posted by reaper47 on Sat Jun 24th at 5:27pm 2006


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There cannot be answers to EVERYTHING. And I don't have all the ones that exist, just as you who beleive wholly in science cannot give me every answer to every scientific question I could ask you.
I don't think God has an origin per se, since before the universe there was no time, there was no way he could have started or ended. I guess since humans cannot really fully comprehend infinity there is no way we can understand how God just always was/is/will be.
Bringing a mass murderer to jail is not fair. What about all the people he killed? Where is the "fair" for them? Puting him in jail will not bring back his victims. If the justice system is so mighty, why can it not stop him before he commits the crime?
As for "because god said so:" Yes, when you break everything in existence to one final question, we all must choose an answer and have faith that our decision is the right one. I say "because God did it." and you say "Science will discover that some day, we just don't know now." When you break it all down to the final, ultimate question, it comes down to faith.


I think after all the discussions we finally came back to faith. Which isn't surprising but I found the thoughts in between to be rather interesting. Infinity is easier to understand for me than the existence of God - which might be the reason I'm not a believer. I don't understand the problem you have with my mass murderer argument because putting him to jail clearly prevents him from killing any more, thus is a good thing. Not perfect but it makes sense from a humane standpoint and is fair. I don't think that's too important now, though. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

Unless anyone brings up something new and very interesting I'm done with this thread. It's over and it was informative! I think I have a clearer understanding of Christian thinking now although, obviously, my view hasn't changed.




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Re: I don't believe in God
Posted by Nickelplate on Sat Jun 24th at 9:44pm 2006


I think I'm pretty well done with this thread too, although I want to clarify that my thoughts are very much more organized than most other Christians you will talk to. Also that there really is no REAL answer as to whether people who have not HEARD of God will go to hell. Only people's guesses.

To Cassius: I think the universe was created with the big bang... I suppose. And Why? we may never know.

Anyway, I'm finished now, unless as reaper said, anyone has anything else to contribute.




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Re: I don't believe in God
Posted by FatStrings on Sun Jul 2nd at 12:20am 2006


well, i've got nothing due to my 4 weeks of absence that caused me to drop about 4 pages behind
4 pages i'm to damn lazy to read





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