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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Nov 25th at 9:03pm 2006

This may be a bit late in coming, but I never actually gave it any thought until today.

As every American knows, you must sign up for selective service upon reaching your 18th birthday. (If you didn't, you'd better check into it pronto)

Today, I was at the post office, the location for the registration card, and noticed that there is only a male card. There seems to be no such obligation for a female age 18, or any age for that matter.

Now, I know that most females are going to be upset about this because it is a vulgar injustice against them. It clearly says that they aren't equal to males.

Anyway, has anyone else here have any opinions? I'd also be curious to know if any other country has a mandatory registration.

(I wish there were some females around here to get an opinion from their side. I'd like to hear how incensed they are)

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Posted by Andrei on Sat Nov 25th at 9:58pm 2006

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WARNING: God has nothing to do with this!


Preemptive strike, eh?

I have no idea what selective service is, but my (Japanese) girlfriend told me once that, in Japan, they have female-only and mixed train cars, in case women are afraid of being harassed. The fact that there isn't a male-only car is pretty sexist imo, though on the other hand, i've never heard of men being harassed by women either. Oh, wait...



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Sat Nov 25th at 10:51pm 2006

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Preemptive strike, eh?

I have no idea what selective service is, but my (Japanese) girlfriend told me once that, in Japan, they have female-only and mixed train cars, in case women are afraid of being harassed. The fact that there isn't a male-only car is pretty sexist imo, though on the other hand, i've never heard of men being harassed by women either. Oh, wait...


I wouldn't regard that situation as discriminatory. If harassment is common enough to warrant providing the option of alternate transport to women then it should be. If males are also being harassed then by all means they should get a separate car too, but to provide one with no reason other than to create the illusion of equality would be a waste of resources.

To address the original post, I believe that if men are required to sign up for selective service women should be too. As sad as it is to see young lives lost to wars, the notion that only men should die for their country is ridiculous.



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Posted by Captain P on Sat Nov 25th at 10:52pm 2006

Isn't it just obvious that men and women aren't equal? I don't get what all the fuss is about. Being different doesn't mean being less...
For example, I'm an artist. Focussed on visuals. Why should I complain that I can't get a job as a sound composer? It's crystal clear to me that it just won't fit. But I also acknowledge a computer game can't do without sound.


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Posted by Rumple on Sun Nov 26th at 12:47am 2006

? quoting Orpheus
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Im not sure what this is either, is it to do with the Military?


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Posted by Stadric on Sun Nov 26th at 2:42am 2006

It's something about how women's periods attract bears, or somesuch.
If any woman thinks lesser of herself because of this, I invite her to voluntarily enlist, the same goes for any feminist that says all women should sign up for selective service.


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Posted by Orpheus on Sun Nov 26th at 2:45am 2006

? quoting Rumple
? quoting Orpheus
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Im not sure what this is either, is it to do with the Military?

Selective Service is some politically correct name for Voluntary Drafting.

Yes, its to do with the military Rumple.





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Posted by wil5on on Sun Nov 26th at 4:23am 2006

So you *have* to sign up for *voluntary* *drafting*? Sounds like a bunch of contradictions there.

I know in most countries with drafting, females are not drafted, or have less required of them. In most militaries, females are not allowed on the front line. I'm sure theres a good reason for that, at least in the minds of the generals.




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Posted by Crono on Sun Nov 26th at 5:40am 2006

Registering is not a draft.

If, however, a draft every did come back into play, that's the first stockpile of names they'd go to. However, drafts have been in non-existence for decades (in the US).

HOWEVER, it doesn't stop them from sending you trickery in the mail. Like, "Join the Army and get a free hat!", or "Join the Navy, build a career, and get a free key-chain".

Women (OR ANY DENOMINATION OF ANYTHING) only cry about equal rights when they're being treated worse, not better. Unless the particular INSERT DENOMINATION is particularly adamant about equal rights.

I can imagine it now, "WHAT? You're only shooting men in the head? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! I DEMAND THAT I AM MURDERED AS WELL!!"

In other-words, no, I don't think many women will jump up and say that they should be required to register.


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Posted by wil5on on Sun Nov 26th at 8:30am 2006

If everyone has to register, then they might as well randomly select citizens when a draft is required, as is normal in most places (such as Australia, my country, where the last draft was for Vietnam and involved randomly selecting people based on birthdate).




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Posted by Andrei on Sun Nov 26th at 11:18am 2006

Oh so that's what we were talking about.

I think it's extremely unfair that girls here only have to put-on their uniforms once a week and take the bus to their unit to shoot at a wooden target as part of the *cough* compulsory *cough cough* conscription program when the guys have to serve a 4 to 12 month sentence and don't get to go home at all during this period.
They should do the politically-correct thing and make the girls crawl through the mud and "guard the strategically essential fence from saboteurs" along with the rest of us mortals. image
They have legs? They can run, albeit not as much as a guy, but still. And I don't see why a girl couldn't guard a fence, or run through an obstacle course.



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Posted by Flynn on Sun Nov 26th at 6:44pm 2006

There just is something unsexy about a lady in a boring old uniform



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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Sun Nov 26th at 7:08pm 2006

Andrei in here it's 6 to 12 months and nothing for women. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> As of 1995 they've been allowed to serve in Finnish army, if they choose to do so. There were less than 10 women where I served, most of them were butt ugly and they though that they had something to prove to the "stronger sex". One of them proved that she was really unfit for army, but I think there is some kind of a quota they need to reach since after letting her AR rust and crying in front of the men she was supposed to command in battle she was still allowed to continue(she did a lot of other stupid things and got out with a only a warning when a male person would have found himself in deep s**t). There is no such thing as equality in real life.



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Posted by French Toast on Sun Nov 26th at 9:11pm 2006

As far as I know, no such thing exists in Canada <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">



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Posted by Bewbies on Mon Nov 27th at 7:46pm 2006

women serve their country in the form of making dinner and birthing.

hmm i need a half-sarcasm formatting.




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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Nov 28th at 5:12am 2006

? quoting Bewbies
women serve their country in the form of making dinner and birthing.

That's what the Bible says! (you didn't think I could slip it in there did you?)

Unfortunately, Bewbies, that is not wnough for women these days and they feel that they need to compete with men in EVERYTHING under the sun. I say if they want to be "Equal," then we need to stop holding doors for them and make thier Military Service as mandatory as it is for men in whatever situation. This will cut down on the population if there were to be a draft, too.




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Posted by SpiKeRs on Tue Nov 28th at 11:47am 2006

I would have thought that when a hatred fueled enemy soldier pins you down inside a ruined building and tries to force his knife through your eye socket, a female soldier wouldn't have much chance. Having said that she would probably just kick him in the balls.



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Posted by Flynn on Tue Nov 28th at 1:59pm 2006

Or cut them off



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Posted by Andrei on Tue Nov 28th at 2:03pm 2006

I agree with nickel. Women want to have equal privileges but not equal responsibilities. The door should swing both ways.



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Posted by Orpheus on Tue Nov 28th at 2:11pm 2006

? quoting Andrei
Women want to have equal privileges but not equal responsibilities.

I hate to point this out but many woman believe that thats the price men pay for shooting all that nasty stuff into them over the millennia. I swear it true.

I don't mean that in a purely crude way either. Most woman firmly believe that. (Well, women word it differently, but the essential outcome is the same)





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