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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Dec 11th at 6:26pm 2006

It's a slippery slope, gentlemen. Soon, they will have a little Advert-bubble floating above every player's head... or pepsi-sponsored model skins or something equallt stupid.

It's bullcrap. They made money off the game, stopped supporting it, then when they realized that CS:S was crap, they started trying to make money off the good one again.

instead of "pop dog" ads they will have pepsi and crap... if they start including everyday products in games that contain never scenarios, kids will start shooting up the school at the sight of a pepsi!




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Posted by reaper47 on Mon Dec 11th at 7:05pm 2006

I just noticed that many threads related to Valve's advertising plans use Pepsi as the ridiculous, negative example. I did so automatically, it's the natural example for product placement. That company must have done something wrong. Or right? Strange.


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Posted by Forceflow on Mon Dec 11th at 7:11pm 2006

You know guys, this is exactly why they updated the Steam Subscriber Agreement a year ago. It's a shallow way of sucking money out of old games.


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Posted by Nickelplate on Mon Dec 11th at 7:14pm 2006

It's the fact that in a fantasy gaming world where so many people go to get away from REAL LIFE, we are going to have ads for real-life products. Most people never hold a Heckler and Koch firearm, but almost everyone has had a Pepsi or a Coke. To see reminders of real life in the gaming virtual world is a horrible blow to the whole industry. when you take the fantasy out of gaming, you're not allowing an escape, and you're also tying reality and the virtual world even tighter so that idiots can blame "ultra-realistic" games. I can see it now, "They even have SODA ads in these games now!!"

I think it's incredibly greedy and inconsiderate for them to change the game like this.




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Posted by fishy on Mon Dec 11th at 7:39pm 2006

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I think it's incredibly greedy and inconsiderate for them to change the game like this.

but it's ok to have soft-drinks ads on the side of a taxi.....




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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Mon Dec 11th at 10:36pm 2006

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I think it's incredibly greedy and inconsiderate for them to change the game like thi
but it's ok to have soft-drinks ads on the side of a taxi.....


But I don't try to escape reality in a taxi... I use it for transportation.



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Posted by fishy on Mon Dec 11th at 11:35pm 2006

if i told you that nickelplate's avatar is a taxi, and irn-bru is a soft drink, would that explain the light blue of my previous post?




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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Tue Dec 12th at 2:05am 2006

I dunno about you but because of CS I'd buy myself a FiveseveN if it weren't illegal in the US. Perhaps it IS an effective marketing tool!



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Posted by FatStrings on Tue Dec 12th at 2:21am 2006

five-seven pwns
and a steve augr to go with



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Posted by Finger on Tue Dec 12th at 4:12am 2006

Movies do it all the time, and only seldomly do I actually notice.

Some games will do it with tact, some games will advertise more blatantly. I expect Valve to be one of the companies that use more tact. I don't think this is anything to blow your lid over, though - seems like alot of people are overreacting here.

The truth is, when next-gen games are costing 20+million dollars to make, studios NEED to find as many outlets for revenue as possible. We aren't like the movies, where you generate sales from Theatre, DVD, Rental, Television, etc. Games generally have a small window of potential success, then dissapear into the void. Even the bargain bin is precious space.

Oh, and btw, the utter commercialization of every inch of this planet cannot be stopped. Just wait, in 50 years, they'll figure out how to plug commercials into your dreams. You'll wake up with a killer craving for "Pepsi" and a sudden urge to buy tampons.





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Posted by French Toast on Tue Dec 12th at 4:37am 2006

Moreso than already? Damn, I have so many tampons it's not funny.



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Posted by amanderino on Tue Dec 12th at 4:49am 2006

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Just wait, in 50 years, they'll figure out how to plug commercials into your dreams. You'll wake up with a killer craving for "Pepsi" and a sudden urge to buy tampons.


I'm going to very mad if that were to happen.<img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_evil.gif">
I'm pretty sure I'd have to kill the person that figured out how to make that possible. And then I'd kill his company.



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Posted by Foxpup on Tue Dec 12th at 6:40am 2006

www.tmcm.com/comics/webcomics/tmcm040920

Seriously, what is the point of advertisements? They just annoy the hell out of people by announcing to the world what everybody knows, such as the fact that the Coca-Cola Company sells cola or that smoking causes lung cancer.


Better to be in denial than to be human.

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Posted by Crono on Tue Dec 12th at 7:49am 2006

It's all Spielberg and Hershey's fault. (ET had the first product placement as we would know them today)
He's also responsible for this horrible season known as Blockbuster Movie season. (Jaws was the first "blockbuster" movie, technically speaking)

Though, if it's done well, we wont notice and it will do nothing but add depth to the game since ads are everywhere in real life. Of course, if they do it like in BF2142, it will fail miserably because those ads don't fit.

But, if there is a CS:S map that takes place in a section of New York, or something like that, it'd be rather unrealistic for there to not be McDonald's and Pepsi Billboards.

Though, the way this is coming off now is a reach for more funds. While I thought Valve was pretty knee deep, for the most part (look at how much they made off of HL1, it's exuberant). I suppose the type of development they're doing would cost a pretty penny.
They're pushing a brand new distribution system for the entire game industry for one, updating a very fund invested engine daily, as well as creating brand new content.

I'd imagine they'd need to get some new funds rolling since they're not charging too much for the HL2 Episodes. (Which would appear to be their main source of new title income)


Blame it on Microsoft, God does.



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Posted by Bewbies on Tue Dec 12th at 5:47pm 2006

? quoting Andrei

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I don't play much of CS anyway



Hmm but how long until other game devs pick-up the idea?
Oh I can see it now: UT2008 with tampon ads everywhere.

Fear.

that's doable, pending they pull a few strings!




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the marching band refused to yield



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Posted by ReNo on Tue Dec 12th at 5:52pm 2006

They mention in the article that it could provide a new revenue stream for mod authors, though I think they have their own income as much in mind as that of modders with this little move. What I find most annoying about it is that they are putting it into a game that they aren't even working on anymore, so this isn't something they can justify with comments like "if you want us to keep supporting this game, we're gonna need more income from it". That said, I'd rather they put it in a game I don't play than I game I do, so CS1.6 is probably the best choice <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">



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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Dec 12th at 6:34pm 2006

I hate consumerism. It is the only way that by "giving consumers what they want," you are bombarding them with unwanted ads.

Part of what I liked about games is that everything IS new and different. I like to be in map with adverts for "Pop Dog" because even the ads, which are a fact of everyday life, are different from that in real life.

I'm sure some of you have seen the Seinfeld episode where George's friends all want to hang out with his fiancee. He says "relationship george and friend george can't meet."

well, "Game Nickelplate, and IRL Nickelplate cannot meet"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcQeWd7wprs




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Posted by fishy on Tue Dec 12th at 7:43pm 2006

why don't we all just jump on the bandwagon, and make a pile of cash. it can't be long before logging into steam, and playing a mod that has shopping malls that let you buy stuff for real, actually becomes a reality. the snarkpit should make that mod. it would only take a couple of maps, some code, and a 3million dollar licence from valve, and we could be raking it in. steam has also started accepting paypal for steam purchases, so how far away can it be.

imagine, you could watch trailers of games and then buy them, all from within another game. in fact, thinking about it is starting to make my head hurt.




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Posted by Andrei on Tue Dec 12th at 8:11pm 2006

Makes me want to move to Cuba.



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Posted by Nickelplate on Tue Dec 12th at 10:09pm 2006

I often wondered when the internet would go 3D. Let's capitalise off of it!

Makes me wanna move to (insert beginning)-stan.

Crono, nobody ever asked for Steam. They saw that they could increase profits by cutting out the publishers, so they did. They are not losing money on STEAM. So, what makes them think they need more!




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