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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Jan 25th at 9:01am 2007

I know, and it's quite brilliant.
VC++ Express edition however, is a bummer. It's quite a nerfed version. I think I'll be getting a student version or something.


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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Thu Jan 25th at 3:49pm 2007

Anyone knowing any tutorials on how to get it to compile with MingW? Then I might give a look in to the source of the Source(SDK). <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">



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Posted by Forceflow on Thu Jan 25th at 4:06pm 2007

Forget it with MinGW. There was a tutorial on the SourceSDK wiki, but compiling under minGW causes more trouble than anything else.


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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Jan 25th at 4:16pm 2007

? quoting Tracer Bullet
people cannot flow abundantly unless you put them through a wood-chipper. "affluent creativity" on the other hand is actually one of their examples...

Well, the process of passing through a chipper would only be considered creative to a serial killer. I dunno if i wanna be in the same category as a killer who makes art out of people pieces.

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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Jan 25th at 6:05pm 2007

How fluxional.


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Posted by G.Ballblue on Thu Jan 25th at 10:28pm 2007

Oh thank God. A Source Code update to get the code to work with VCE Express is something I've been waiting for, since I've never been able to find any links to the 2003 version of Visual C++ :/

And yea, I'd pay for it to if I could just find someone selling it.


Anyhow, I need to try compiling SDK Code some time :]


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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Fri Jan 26th at 12:16pm 2007

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Forget it with MinGW. There was a tutorial on the SourceSDK wiki, but compiling under minGW causes more trouble than anything else.


What do these Valve guys have against standards? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif"> MingW compiles standard(ANSI) C and C++ and more, but I guess Valve just uses so much stuff added by M$ in their code that isn't too close to the standard... I actually couldn't compile some standard examples on MS VC at our school because the MS made compiler doesn't understand standard C(the example I took from a 1970s C programming book compiled just fine in both MingW and DJGPP(as well as an old Borland compiler I had on my 486)). <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">



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Posted by Captain P on Fri Jan 26th at 8:00pm 2007

I assume the programmers at Valve have nothing against standards, rather, they prefer solid IDE's. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

Note that standards may change over times - 1970's code probably isn't compliant with the C99 standard. But, I'm no expert in language standards, I'm just a humble programmer. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">


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Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Fri Jan 26th at 10:48pm 2007

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I assume the programmers at Valve have nothing against standards, rather, they prefer solid IDE's. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> Note that standards may change over times - 1970's code probably isn't compliant with the C99 standard. But, I'm no expert in language standards, I'm just a humble programmer. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">


Something very similar to the "Hello World" program shouldn't be very different between different versions of a standard, but then again what would I know.



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Posted by Forceflow on Fri Jan 26th at 11:07pm 2007

I can understand why it's impossible to keep it standard. They're not writing your-average-2000-lines-C++ app here. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">


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Posted by Crono on Sat Jan 27th at 12:18am 2007

There's actually a very good chance that it doesn't work with the standard because they're using MS development tools. I mean ... the founding members of Valve were Microsoft employees.

It is not impossible to keep to a standard when the standard changes and adapts to newer technologies, while never invalidating previous techniques and ideas. They're just now phasing out using the standard library .h files (They want you to use namespaces).

The point is, code written at the beginning stages of a language should work for all eternity. The compilers should support all features described in a language's standard.

Visual C++ could actually be considered a seperate language. Basic syntax is the same, but practices aren't.


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Posted by parakeet on Tue Jan 30th at 10:41pm 2007

Guys! what i was trying to say is that 2005 express WORKS with hl2 now.. :O

No need to throw money at the microsoft guys. I compiled the other day and made the rocket launcher shoot really slow :P.

It's not nerfed anymore.


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Posted by Captain P on Wed Jan 31st at 12:44am 2007

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I compiled the other day and made the rocket launcher shoot really slow


Great! Now make the camera move with it, add some Matrix-styled number screen overlays and add give the rocket a big blast. :P


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Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 31st at 2:14am 2007

I can see it now. When the computer calculates that when you fired it will be an instant kill and head shot, it will go into Super Death Cam Mode and follow the bullet ... or rocket to its destination.

Though then you have the problem of getting killed while that happens.


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Posted by Forceflow on Wed Jan 31st at 6:57am 2007

That kind of mod already exists. Something with Solid Snake in the name ...


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