Cars are not inherently borked. Yes, they make lemons but by and large, they aren't made broken.

However, their owners are. The average grownup now, hasn't a clue on how to properly maintain an automobile. I have owned several cars. Most have in excess of 100,000 miles. The last 4 have in excess of 300,000. My Saturn has 394,000 miles on the odometer, and 760,000 miles on the body. All my auto's are properly maintained though.

If you have a car, thats not been previously owned, and its broken, its more than likely your fault. Thats not 100% assured, but its more than likely true. If you have a previously owned car and its broken, stop bitching about the car since you are not privy to its history. You cannot in good faith blame it for its woes.

If you are under 30, the chances are you have NOT the knowledge to make an educated assessment of car brands. You are more than likely just repeating your parents words. There are however exceptions. I am betting NickelPlate knows a few things about cars, and we all know that he is a child in a grown mans body. " SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">

But seriously, until you've owned a car from new, don't wad all cars into the "FORD SUCKS ASS" category.

oh, no you di'in't!

I'd say of the 3 main car manufacturers in the USA, Ford is the best one. Their business practices lately are very shady/crappy, but their cars are great. REmember: Ford makes Volvo, Land Rover, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Mazda, Lincoln and Mercury. If you say Aston Martin sucks I will purchase a plane ticket to the airport nearest your house, and hijack the plane into your bedroom, planting the starboard engine in your face.

Edit: Flynn, the british escort is different from the USA escort. The british one started out having quite a bit of class. Not unlike my 1956 British Ford Consul http://consul.dimebowl.com <----very nice. lol

Seems to me that the towers would have a chimney effect, turning them into a flue.. Thereby increasing the heat like in a wood stoves vent pipe.

Just my thinking though since the stairway in the towers was engulfed in all that fuel.

I was a Combat Engineer in the army, not a structural Engineer so I cannot say for a certainty but, I do know how to blow up a building so I think my guess is better than some.

The planes crashed just far enough down to cause the upper portion to collapse under its own weight.

Remember, the second building hit, was the first to fall. It fell first because the hit was further down and more pressure was exerted from above.

I am not really sure about the construction, but I imagine a few parts were made of aluminum. Ask any Brit about the Hood, and you'll know what happens to aluminum once its heated. (This also assumes that I remember my history about Battleships and powder magazines.)

Anywho, the buildings fell because of the fire, not the impact. Had the planes had less fuel, the outcome might have been different.

*shrugs*

Who knows.

Well, the only thing you said that I concur with is, "Ford is a bitch to work on" The f**king people design their motors to require special tools. Assholes all of them.

The rest of it is.. unsubstantiated bunk. No car breaks more often than another, not by default anyway.

Yes, they all break. I drive brand new school busses and about 5 a year break down. I deliver about 75, so thats what? about 4%? Now compound that by ever how many people deliver school busses and you get a pretty whopping figure. s**t breaks.

I don't own it any longer but I did have a 1990 Tempo. By all accounts a piece of s**t car. At least thats what I heard prior to buying it.. USED.

I got over 400,000 miles out of it before it became to much of a liability to use anymore. Yup, fixed many of its parts, but it was still about 75% original equipment when I sold it for parts.

Now, if I bought into that crap about Tempo's, I'd not have gotten one to show me otherwise.

Believe what you wish, but its people who break these things. If your Pop is fixing mainly Fords, find out if its the owners breaking them before you complain. If your Pop doesn't know, then he should be quiet about Fords too. Could it be that more people drive fords and thats why more are broken?

I wonder.

IMO, the most reliable car is a Honda. No particular reason other than they seem to last beyond expectations. I do however like a Saturn too, so its not American or Foreign I favor.

*shrugs*

The fact remains that we have no structural engineers to postulate our arguments with. Not that that would do any good. We had a doctor, and he royally f**ked up the ADHD discussion. (Thats for the purpose of example, not to open past scabs)

The buildings were the biggest of the big. Unless you want to wreck a plane into the next tallest building of a DIFFERENT design, we'll never know for sure.

I watched the films about the falling. I believe it was due to a design flaw that never took into account of fire+impact. If they had, they never would have made the stairwells as they had.

I have no answer. Just my belief and my engineering background. I could bring a building down. I dunno if I could do it with a plane. I never studied that.

So, my best guess is worthless. " SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">