A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
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Posted by reaper47 on Mon Jan 29th at 9:54pm 2007


Pvt.Scythe, I watched the clip and I think it's pretty mean. You can do that in almost every country. I know a German comedian who did that in Berlin with a similar result...

I'm sure if you're an intelligent American (and there must be enough considering it's one of the wealthiest and technologically advanced countries in the world) you must get very mad if you see this.

But I wouldn't dismiss clips like this as nonsense either. I'm sure they cut out many people who were right. But I've never seen a person sticking an "Iran" flag in Australia, even if it's labeled wrong. That wasn't some poor college student. That was a grown man who didn't hesitate for a second. I've never seen anything like this in Berlin.

It reminded me of Asians who rather say yes and point in a wrong direction when they are asked for the way to a place they don't know rather than admitting their lack of knowledge. It has something to do with "loosing your face". They probably smile while doing that, also.

I think that ultimately, this could be the reason for the American stereotype of not knowing anything about the world. They talk as if it's the most obvious thing, as if they knew it all the time, even if they have no idea. I guess that's something Americans like to do more than others image image

I think more Europens would have said they're not sure and would have been more sceptical towards the guy with the microphone.

But, yes these are streotypes. I apologize to the educated Americans in this forum... image






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Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by Pvt.Scythe on Mon Jan 29th at 10:16pm 2007


I'm sorry for this clip, but I think I've told you about that nurse student from Utah that visited our school some years ago(I'm talking about my previous school). That woman was 21 and she didn't know in which part of the world she was in. All she knew was that she was "somewhere north". When we made some additional questions it turned out that her geography was really weak. It's all too true what that clip shows about American ignorance. I know there are educated people in there, smart ones, but if general population has that bad knowledge on what happens outside their country... It scares the living daylight out of me to think that you guys actually have nukes.



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Posted by Crono on Mon Jan 29th at 10:26pm 2007


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I'm sorry for this clip, but I think I've told you about that nurse student from Utah that visited our school some years ago(I'm talking about my previous school). That woman was 21 and she didn't know in which part of the world she was in. All she knew was that she was "somewhere north". When we made some additional questions it turned out that her geography was really weak. It's all too true what that clip shows about American ignorance. I know there are educated people in there, smart ones, but if general population has that bad knowledge on what happens outside their country... It scares the living daylight out of me to think that you guys actually have nukes.


That's a very ignorant statement on your part and in the process refutes the validity of your statement.

The manner in your reasoning doesn't make any sense and makes your opinion hold less weight as a result.



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Posted by RedWood on Mon Jan 29th at 10:47pm 2007


The people that run the USA are very smart, and they do their best to keep as many people as stupid and ignorant as possible (like the people in that video) so they can maintain their seats of power and wealth (greed). Whats easer to control. A group of slaves seeking freedom or a group of slaves that don't know their slaves.



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Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by Stadric on Tue Jan 30th at 4:34am 2007


* WAR IS PEACE
* FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
* IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH



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Posted by Naklajat on Tue Jan 30th at 9:05am 2007


It scares me that there are enough nuclear weapons in the world to COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE EVERYTHING ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET, many times over. It scares me that funding was cut from legitimate space exploration research and put into the weaponizing of orbital space (defensively of course <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif">). It scares me that people make millions upon millions of dollars from creating more efficient ways of killing people. It scares me that the world is walking awfully close to the edge of World War 3, and people could care less, they just want to hear about celebrities and watch TV and work at their 9 to 5 job to get little pieces of paper so they can buy their material happiness. It scares me that half of the world's monetary wealth is in the hands of a tiny fraction of the population, and the average Joe either doesn't know or doesn't care.

OK I'M DONE NOW.



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Posted by Juim on Tue Jan 30th at 1:07pm 2007


The video clip shows a very small cross section of people. I'm also sure he has plenty of footage of people who got the questions right. Have him walk throughout his own country and see the results. I'm sure he could come up with a 5 minute video of British folks answering questions wrong.



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Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by French Toast on Tue Jan 30th at 6:25pm 2007


You're right Baron Von Snickers, NOBODY CARES AT ALL.



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Posted by fishy on Tue Jan 30th at 8:57pm 2007


? quoting French Toast
You're right Baron Von Snickers, NOBODY CARES AT ALL.

I do, and so do many others, so shut your legs please, there's a draught.




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Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by DocRock on Tue Jan 30th at 9:21pm 2007


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You're right Baron Von Snickers, NOBODY CARES AT ALL.

You're wrong, even though you may might have been being sarcastic. The people who do care are the ones who are called the 'tin-foil hat' wearers or the kooks because they put their necks on the line saying that people need to start to care, people need to take a step back, and take a deeper look at what's really going on around them.

I mean, how many of you know that Osama Bin Laden's brother was meeting with George Bush Sr the day before 9/11? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family#Business_connections_of_the_Bush_and_bin_Laden_families

Call me crazy, but I think this world we live in is on the brink of ruin. Pretty obvious with the wars and rumors of wars and evil corrupt politicians. Don't know if any of you guys have looked at the book of Revelation in the bible, but alot of that is coming true now. Just step back a minute and think. We are living in some truly evil times. Turn off your Brittany Spears video for a minute, and find a good 'true' news website instead of the paid-off big news stations like CNN or Fox News.

It's really too bad people don't care - because if they did, then probably alot of this evil wouldn't be as bad as it is. If people cared, then we might be living in a more peaceful time...and the United States of America wouldn't be headed toward destruction. Our democracy is in chaos, and so many people don't even know what is truly going on. It's sick.




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Posted by French Toast on Tue Jan 30th at 9:21pm 2007


Wow fishy, someone's sarcasm detector is broken.

The point is that everyone cares, and it's retarded and foolish and above all ignorant to suggest that nobody cares at all about the most pressing and obvious world issues. The thing is, most people have a lot more immediate problems. Everyone is afraid of WWIII breaking out, but more importantly, they need to gas up their car and buy milk for their Honeycomb.

So BvS, stop being so goddamn shortsighted and undermining the intelligence of everyone in the world.

EDIT: Doc, if you want to wear your tin hat and crawl under your bed clutching your knees and rock back in forth, do it in a different thread. We're all sick of your conspiracy theory bulls**t.



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Pretty obvious with the wars and rumors of wars and evil corrupt politicians.


Dude, this is just retarded. In every level of government since the dawn of man there has been corruption. it's human nature, so don't start making it out like it's a new thing. And rumors of war? There have ALWAYS been wars. So this is all pretty standard, learn your f**king history.

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Don't know if any of you guys have looked at the book of Revelation in the bible, but alot of that is coming true now.


Oh. I guess it's starting to paint a picture now...




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Posted by reaper47 on Tue Jan 30th at 10:12pm 2007


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Don't know if any of you guys have looked at the book of Revelation in the bible, but alot of that is coming true now.


image You mean like in pretty much every century in the history of mankind?

Honestly, is this a religious thing? Or was that just an argument to win the religious people over? I never realized that 9/11 conspiracies can be argued with the bible.






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Posted by fishy on Tue Jan 30th at 10:14pm 2007


sarcasm and arrogance are different beasts. just like spoonerisms don't always come from a shining wit.




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Posted by Bewbies on Tue Jan 30th at 10:37pm 2007


if you aren't a tin-foil-hat-wearer, the tin-foil-hat-wearer comment wasn't directed at you. i apply people to this category when they find a morsel of question in a buffet of facts, and cry foul.. bleh. all these rats nowadays, feverishly looking for these morsels, ignoring the already established facts of the matter. i wasn't going to point this out, but you got all defensive. sorry.

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I mean, how many of you know that Osama Bin Laden's brother was meeting with George Bush Sr the day before 9/11?

osama was disowned by his family in 1994.. due to his radical views and thusly revoked citizenship from saudi arabia. fyi. also, not only his brother, but his father have had major business dealing with G.W., that have been on the up-and-up. these meetings were common, considering they've done business together. a tin-foil-hat-wearer (TFHW) would be one that ignores Osama's disassociation with his family, and focuses on bush's association with said family.

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Turn off your Brittany Spears video for a minute, and find a good 'true' news website instead of the paid-off big news stations like CNN or Fox News.

paid-off big news stations? sorry, i should be getting my news from a moore reliable source, like moveon.org. look, media is a fact of life in this country, and there will never be complete fairness as far as reporting goes.. however, thinking that we're all being influenced by some dubious 'smoking man' via pay-offs to the media, is a TFHW's thinking.

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It's really too bad people don't care - because if they did, then probably alot of this evil wouldn't be as bad as it is.

it's common for a TFHW to think he's the sole righteous person on earth.. the only one that sees the truth, the only one that cares. fight the good fight, though! we're all just so ignorant and careless. =(




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Posted by Stadric on Wed Jan 31st at 4:29am 2007


Here's a fact that some may not know:
Tin foil hats in fact magnify the electromagnetic wavelengths that would be used for mind control or monitoring.
God bless MIT students who can pass a class by allegedly wasting time.

As for corruption being ever-present throughout history, that's so true. Any historian, biblical scholar, or English professor will tell you that today's problems have been present for centuries.
Just look at Hamlet yelling at Ophelia from Hamlet.
Get thee to a Nunnery!

Because he thought she was trying to seduce him.
Look at Samson from the book of Judges, he was tricked by a corrupt woman.
And for the obligatory historical reference, the pre-revolutionary French government was corrupt enough to warrant a revolt, too bad they waited for the next king to come to power, and revolted while he was doing a good job. Bummer.

"There's nothing new under the sun."



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Posted by RedWood on Wed Jan 31st at 5:17am 2007


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Don't know if any of you guys have looked at the book of Revelation in the bible, but alot of that is coming true now.

O ya, well I saw Lord of the Rings in theater.

I think Osama was killed long before the invasion of Iraq. Probably got boomed and they never bother sending anyone the inspect the body/pile of mess (or something along that nature). Reason begin, if it was public knowledge that he was dead, Bush would have never gotten the "support" to invade Iraq. The public would have thought the job was done and probably gave a more resounding response of "NO" to the Iraq thing. Now they can't say they found him because they can't produce a body. Guaranteed someone outside the US administration would ask to see the corps.




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Posted by DocRock on Wed Jan 31st at 3:40pm 2007


? quoting French Toast
Doc, if you want to wear your tin hat and crawl under your bed clutching your knees and rock back in forth, do it in a different thread. We're all sick of your conspiracy theory bulls**t.

Dude, this is just retarded. In every level of government since the dawn of man there has been corruption. it's human nature, so don't start making it out like it's a new thing. And rumors of war? There have ALWAYS been wars. So this is all pretty standard, learn your f**king history.

You ever known someone who didn't realize that they were about to step into the path of an oncoming car? All I'm saying is that it's pretty obvious that the world around us - and the country that we live in (in the USA) - is headed toward disaster and so many people are oblivious to it. They don't care. All I'm tryin to say is watch out. It isn't a joke.




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Posted by French Toast on Wed Jan 31st at 6:01pm 2007


Not really, you're going to narrowly avoid that disaster in '08, when you kick it's ass out of the white house.



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Posted by French Toast on Wed Jan 31st at 6:35pm 2007


Yeah well, it started off pretty bad when people started taking offense to some light-hearted jokes.




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