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 Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by DocRock on Wed Jan 31st at 9:06pm 2007

? quoting French Toast
Yeah well, it started off pretty bad when people started taking offense to some light-hearted jokes.

Do you take it light-heartedly that the President of the United States lied four times in his address to the nation the other night? Do you take it light-heartedly that lying to the general public as President is an Impeachable Offense according to the constitution?

http://www.infowars.com/articles/bush/video_olbermann_fact_checking_the_president.htm




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Posted by French Toast on Wed Jan 31st at 9:43pm 2007

You god damn retard that's not what I"m talking about at ALL. I'm talking about the original purpose for the thread.

Christ, it's like discussing physics with a 3 year old.



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Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 31st at 10:58pm 2007

Have you ever heard of this group of people who still believe the world is flat? They say that all modern (or ancient, depending on how you look at it) physics is propagated lies by the government. They even have their own physicists who "prove" these things. I would imagine their proofs don't involve anything conclusive ... like math.


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Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 31st at 11:51pm 2007

I think they're fake, Crono. But a nice idea <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">


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 Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by RedWood on Thu Feb 1st at 12:46am 2007

Has anyone els hear of string theory? It's a very prominent theory that states that the entire known universe exists on a single flexible plane. (off topic i know)



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Posted by French Toast on Thu Feb 1st at 2:45am 2007

Ever heard the theory of the Big Bang? What a joke! praise Jesus!



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Posted by Crono on Thu Feb 1st at 4:58am 2007

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I think they're fake, Crono. But a nice idea image


I couldn't find a link to the actual group. But there is a group of people who follow that "logic". I remember going over it in some university courses. We also went over the whole "alien abduction" idea, where it originated from and a more feasible explanation other than what people's accounts are.

It's all in good fun, but there are groups that really believe this nonsense. If I knew the name I'd throw it up here, but it was years ago.


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 Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by French Toast on Thu Feb 1st at 5:03am 2007

I believe it's called the Flat Earth Society? They think that Newfoundland is one of the four corners of the Earth.



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 Re: A message frrom the great and wise John Cleese
Posted by Stadric on Thu Feb 1st at 5:06am 2007

Blasphemers!! All of you!
The one true god/conspiracy theory!
The god is the flying spaghetti monster, and the conspiracy theory is the spaghetti monster cover-up.
http://www.randomfate.net/MT/media/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster.jpg


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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Feb 1st at 3:34pm 2007

My personal belief about the tug-o-war between Frenchy and Doc is.. You have two very opposite views and believe that nothing exists in between them. Neither of you seem aware that 99.967% of the rest of the world is in actuality "IN" that between and couldn't care less about either of your viewpoints.

/irony of the moment





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Posted by French Toast on Thu Feb 1st at 5:40pm 2007

My personal belief is that you're wrong. Doc is just s**tting on the thread with all this conspiracy theory bullcrap.



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Posted by DocRock on Thu Feb 1st at 5:58pm 2007

? quoting Orpheus
Neither of you seem aware that 99.967% of the rest of the world is in actuality "IN" that between and couldn't care less about either of your viewpoints.

Do you have any cold hard facts to prove that statement? I mean, how can you say something so blatantly untrue without anything to back you up? Have you read any polls anywhere or even researched beyond listening to Bill O'Reilly on the radio to say that? Cmon, Orph, don't participate unless you have something to base your opinion on, not just the local diner's opinions.

? posted by French Toast
My personal belief is that you're wrong. Doc is just s**tting on the thread with all this conspiracy theory bullcrap.
It isn't a conspiracy theory. You know what the best conspiracy theory is about 9/11? It's that seven guys in caves got together and brought planes into towers and knocked them down. That's a laugh. You're tellin me that these guys were able to make NORAD stand down?
Have any of you researched anything beyond the droll of your local newspaper? Jesus, take a minute - hell, a second, to look up WTC7, the only building, not struck by a plane on 9/11 that collapsed in less than 7 seconds, and the building was 2 blocks away from the towers. You're a fckin conspiracy nut if you think that fire brought it down. It's PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!
Think about it. Seriously. SERIOUSLY!



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Feb 1st at 7:38pm 2007

Doc I really don't care but I would like to point out that I used my limited knowledge of Engineering to point out how or why the towers fell down.

The idea you have about it, isn't shared by me and I would also like to point out that you don't even have a limited Engineering knowledge to make a comment about them falling.

At best all you have is a limited bit of 3rd, or 4th party rumor.

Lastly, we all know that surveys and polls can be skewed. Last time I checked, the average yearly salary of the United States was 65,000 dollars per year. If that isn't a bunch of s**t, I'll kiss your ass. facts are as reliable as you want them to be.

/towers discussion

Frenchy, leave Doc alone. He will single handedly ruin the entire atmosphere around here if you keep it up.





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Posted by DocRock on Thu Feb 1st at 8:28pm 2007

? quoting Orpheus
Doc I really don't care

That's too bad. I'd figure that with your military background you might want to stand up with some of your fellow veterans, and for your country, and fight for the freedoms that our for-fathers fought and won for us and gave us our freedom.

I see that you're a movie buff, Orph. Why don't you watch 9/11 Mysteries, then we might have a common subject to debate about. It goes into great details about the controlled demolition of the towers. Watch that instead of throwing cheap jabs at me and the past we had here which is not funny. I got over it. Too bad you can't.

This isn't about me and you, it's about what's going on around us. Research it. You have the internet at your disposal.




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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Feb 1st at 8:59pm 2007

Consider our history. Doc, I am trying ever so hard. When I say I don't care, it means I don't care what you think. Not the subject, just you. I care lots and lots about thee topic of the towers.

Your arrogance wouldn't have read it that way the first time so I had to clarify it. Now, I look like the ass.

Nice going.

You have a s**tload of 3rd hand speculation. And STILL your ego won't let it rest. There was even an indepth real engineering reply, WITHIN this thread, and still you continue.

Yes, you have every right in the world to believe that someone did whatever to the towers, but give it a rest.

I cannot make that any plainer. The towers fell. Let the experts and the victims decide how, and why.





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Posted by Stadric on Fri Feb 2nd at 1:21am 2007

Orph.


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Cuiquam in sua arte credenum

We must trust an expert in his own field.

I don't really like that philosophy. I'm not going to distrust someone 'just because', but I won't take it as the gospel truth unless they'll explain it to me.
The 9/11 conspiracy theories have been explained to me, as well as debunked, so I'm good on the subject. Still, I'll watch that 9/11 mysteries video.


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Posted by Nickelplate on Fri Feb 2nd at 3:16am 2007

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Orph.


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Cuiquam in sua arte credenum

We must trust an expert in his own field.



Unless that person is a Christian, in which case we ought to ridicule that expert of his field.

9/11 was NOT a conspiracy, unless you count angry muslims in caves a conspiracy.



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Posted by Crono on Fri Feb 2nd at 3:21am 2007

Just to note, the 'act' in which is being described here would actually be a cabal, I believe. I mean, you've got this whole secret organization and everything, you might as well use the right term.

The attack was in fact, by definition, a conspiracy, since there was a large radical group responsible for it.


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Posted by Stadric on Fri Feb 2nd at 3:52am 2007

The WTC structural engineer in the video said that the towers were designed to withstand a fully-loaded Boeing 707 crashing into one of them at low speed, then the female narrator in the video said that the Boeing 707 and 767 have comparable weights, but she also said that the 767 was going much faster, and didn't follow up on that.

From the video:
Airplanes only carry the fuel load they need
That's not true, they carry extra in case of emergencies, that's one of the reasons why planes dump fuel if they need to make an emergency landing. If a plane had only enough fuel to get where it's going, they would never dump fuel before making an emergency landing at or near their intended destination, since they would be almost out anyway, or they would at least dump very little fuel, which they don't.

"The towers were designed to withstand 140mph gusts of wind."
Cruising speed of a Boeing 767: 540 mph, and these planes were going faster than cruising speed.

The video mentioned several large office buildings with steel frames that had burned for hours and not collapsed. To be fair, none of those buildings had been hit by a plane, and none of them had any jet fuel involved with the blaze.
The maximum burning temperature of the most common commercial jet fuel is 980 ?C (Jet fuel JET A-1), we can assume something close to that number, since it was concentrated and localized in the explosion.
Polyurethane is probably the most common office product that burns at a very high temperature (371-427?C). Obviously there's a difference between a fire caused by a cigarette in a trashcan that spreads to some computers and upholstery, and a fire fueled by heavy-duty kerosene.

Where are the cores at ground zero?
I dunno, probably amidst the wreckage, I mean, they did fall, that's the message you're trying to convey to me, right?

On the subject of intense heat damaging structural steel, no one interviewed mentioned such heat.
Is it inconceivable that anyone who encountered burning jet fuel wouldn't live to tell the tale?

A rough estimate based on Google Earth for the location of the camera man at the 14:30 mark in the video places him around 336 meters from the 65 floor of the WTC. The speed of sound is 344m/s, so there would've been a delay of almost one second between him seeing the collapse, and him hearing it. That is an interesting point, but it isn't necessarily grounds for an explosion. There could be any number of things going on inside the building that could've caused that type of sound, that would've projected the sound before we saw the results on the outside of the building. After all, the buildings were centered around an internal steel frame, which could collapse and shoot out sound waves before spewing rubble outside of the building.
As for the popping sounds heard, that's most likely windows exploding from compressed air, not all of the windows were broken with the initial impact.

That's my response to the first fifteen minutes of the video, it only took me two and a half hours (with research). I may continue with the rest of the video, but it is getting late.


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Posted by French Toast on Fri Feb 2nd at 4:52am 2007

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Frenchy, leave Doc alone. He will single handedly ruin the entire atmosphere around here if you keep it up. image


Yeah I know. It's just oh so hard to restrain the fist of death.




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