WTC7

Run it a few times. Notice the top dip inward at the middle. Notice the explosions running up the right hand side.

No, this reminds me of Satchmo. He was so f**king sure of himself that he looked more and more like an ass with each reply. He even went so far as to insinuate that it was a mid-western problem, not a nationwide one. How f**king egocentric is that?

I know with a certainty what I said to Satchmo was correct. I am nearly as sure about this topic as well. There is enough doubt not to cause a fight with it however, tis why I gave Doc a way out with each post I made.

I at least admit some room for doubt. He is on a crusade to corrupt impressionable minds with his views. There is a line, that shouldn't be crossed, and he is hell bent to make that line unimportant.

Anyway, unless you know Doc's history, its best to be a bit stand-offish. On the surface it appears that I am being harsh. On a much deeper level, its nothing more than standing up to a heretic causing strife within a somewhat calm forum.

In the end, I will always oppose the Satchmo's and Doc Rocks who post here.

I'M saying that its a simple principle to get yer head around....you can take damn near any situation and misconstrue the facts, and manipulate them to your liking....

*quoting Orpheus

For my part its cut and dry. The towers fell due to structural damage that exceeded its ability to cope.

am i losing my mind or did we not hash this out fairly completely in a number of other threads?

the towers were basicly a tube spine up the center, and a trussed structural facad with interlocking wall sections that went up like a jigsaw puzzle...stress loads were carried mainly on the 47 columns in the center tube, and extraneous weight due to flex, sway etc , was transferred to the outet exoskeleton....basicly two support systems in an ingenious design....
one million tons of metal.....now, lets do some general math....the first tower was hit approximately 1/5th of the way down from the top....if the center tube was compromised in any way, the stress loads would be transferred to the nearest adjacent column/support and would exponentially increase the strain on it....metal fatigue in the mid columns would would cause bends, buckling, and or complete failure eventually.....1/5th of the building, on lets say, two thirds of the main support system.....about.....200 thousand tons....holy s**t, thats alot metal.....now envision, a brick being held up by toothpicks.....you push straight down, it offeres much resistance....tip it by a degree or three, it drops like a rock.....

the weight of the upper floors pushes straight down....the strength of the frame is compromised at what...1200 degrees?.....loses half its strength, as per that friggin film....once the cycle of weight and gravity takes over, the steel members pop like toothpicks, and with the force of 200 plus tons, plus the velocity and inertia as it picks up speed, there isnt a damn thin on this earth, save a mountain, that would alter its course once set in motion....its entirely too big, too heavy, and moving too fast....straight down, "like a ton of bricks".....ok....the little poofs of smoke that ya'll are calling detonation points.....take a balloon, fill it with air....push down....what happens? the air is forced out at a rapid and accellerated fashion....same thing in the towers....once the "solidified mass" starts its trek earthward, its the "big hand pushing on the balloon"....and with that much uninterupted force, im actually surprised they didnt find steel beams in the next county....

ill look for the other thread....

Doc B...

? quoting reaper47

Well, it?s what you always advise us to do

Your English is showing again Reaper. I didn't mean it as NO, I won't shut up. Rather No, this is to much like... Besides, Frenchy was outright attacking, I was continuing in as mild a fashion as I could manage considering the person on the other side of the discussion.

I've always been kinda split decision with the Oswald thing. I am just a good shot with a rifle and I could put the bullets into JFK's head the same way he did, and from what I heard, he was an excellent marksman... So why couldn't he have done it?

In the end though, I never really gave it enough thought to have an opinion about it. He could have done it, he also might not have.

The biggest problem I have with conspiracy nuts is that they are every bit as annoying as the bible thumpers with regard to their belief system. The more improbable the conspiracy, the more they fight for it.

Its like they always say, nuts only believe in the unprovable, that way you cannot prove them wrong either.

*sighs*

Reaper, you're blowing it all out of proportion. You've even left it so that I am not even able to explain so...

Do what you feel makes sense, but sometimes No doesn't mean yes, but often no doesn't mean no either.

Right this moment, After that outburst, I don't really care what you do. You've made your bed, sleep in it, or not.