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Posted by FatStrings on Wed Jan 31st at 6:41pm 2007

I'm doing a pet peeve speech in school and my topic is Gothic/Nonconformists. I decided you guys are my source so, flame away. but no curse words because i can't say that in school:lol:



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Posted by Andrei on Wed Jan 31st at 6:48pm 2007

Non-conformist in their own views maybe. Try telling a goth that they are actually CONFORMING to what the next goth thinks is gothic or not.



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Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 31st at 6:57pm 2007

Will you ever do any of your assignments on your own?

Rebellious attitude and "not conforming" to some mystical standard set by the small niche of society inside a high school is only normal. It isn't anything new and dates back at least 100 years. There are always new forms of it, it just seems that now, one of the most recent incarnations are also lazy ... as I understand from their claim to way of life.

Paraphrase, or else you'll be plagiarizing.


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Posted by French Toast on Wed Jan 31st at 7:31pm 2007

I love how everyone who doesn't 'conform' is exactly the same.



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Posted by Nickelplate on Wed Jan 31st at 7:41pm 2007

The only way one can be truly non-conformist is to conform to that which all others are rebelling against.


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Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 31st at 7:56pm 2007

Like Crono said, there have always been frustrated teenagers and there will always be. Whether they join the "wear black clothes" club or not isn't really that important.

It was fun for a while but lately the Goth-bashing has become some kind of cheap sport. Basically, all they do is being weaker, thus being a great target to make fun of. What is it they did to people? Except for being weird and "breathing their air".


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Posted by Andrei on Wed Jan 31st at 8:57pm 2007

? quote:
The only way one can be truly non-conformist is to conform to that which all others are rebelling against.


But even then you'd be conforming <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">



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Posted by BlisTer on Wed Jan 31st at 9:31pm 2007

from the Goths i know, i interpret it like this: being Goth in highschool is just for being different and cool. Being Goth in College or after that is because you are depressed and hate the world. I don't want to generalize, but this is the case for the Goths i know.


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Posted by Stadric on Thu Feb 1st at 5:18am 2007

While bad-mouthing goths and emos is very chic right now, that doesn't make it any less...what's the word? Right.

Tell a goth kid that if he wants to do what no one else his age is doing, he should become a priest, then record his response and there's your report right there.


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Posted by Crono on Thu Feb 1st at 5:27am 2007

BBCode uses square brackets, not angle brackets.

You also implied that all "goth kids" are male.


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Posted by Naklajat on Thu Feb 1st at 1:29pm 2007

High school cliques are basically the coolest thing ever, as far as I can tell.

It's great not having to deal with that crap anymore.


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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Feb 1st at 4:06pm 2007

? quoting Crono
Will you ever do any of your assignments on your own?

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About Goths: Personally, I have never understood the "Be different but treated same" mentality.

If you want to dress like a freak, f**k Go For It I say, but never, ever get upset because your accused of being one. Thats about as lame as it can get.





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Posted by Crono on Thu Feb 1st at 4:58pm 2007

I'm getting sick of these gibberish binary jokes.


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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Feb 1st at 5:31pm 2007

? quote:
If you want to dress like a freak, f**k Go For It I say, but never, ever get upset because your accused of being one.


I think I?ve never met anyone who calls himself a "Goth" but I doubt they have a problem with being accused to be a freak. They like it. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">


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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Feb 1st at 7:32pm 2007

Perhaps, but I passed a woman, obviously wealthy, who was wearing a pair of leopard spotted pants one day. I laughed so hard I had tears in my eyes. She was upset for some reason that I never did fathom.

I know a girl who wears goth clothes. She gets upset every time I ask her "Why do you dress down like that?"

Yeah, she gets upset.





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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Feb 1st at 7:48pm 2007

Yea, well,... people... <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">


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Posted by FatStrings on Thu Feb 1st at 8:15pm 2007

I'm supposed to have an outside source, besides, i figured you guys would have fun with this



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Posted by Orpheus on Thu Feb 1st at 8:17pm 2007

? quoting reaper47
Yea, well,... people...

My point was, they care. They may claim indifference, but its bull. There seems to be some sort of badge of honor they wear with all that black clothe and silver chains.

Anyway.. What were we saying? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/heee.gif">





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Posted by FatStrings on Thu Feb 1st at 8:18pm 2007

here's my view on it:

other than the obvious fact that the "nonconformists" are conforming with each other, most claim that they don't care what society thinks of them or how they act/dress, if they really didn't care, why do they go through all of this trouble trying to prove it, if they really didn't care they would just be themselves



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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Feb 1st at 9:05pm 2007

Well, yes I agree, they?re confused teenagers... But there are environmentally concerned people who eat tuna once in a while although it?s nearly extinct in many places. There are Christians who skip church for a day. There are far-left liberals who eat at McDonald?s. Still they?re doing more for their community than the average person who doesn?t give a s**t.

They can?t be "non-conform" (a bulls**t term anyways, I agree) every second of their life. There?s no non-conform way of buying bread. Or living in this society without being delivered into a mental institution.

They?re clearly intentional outsiders compared to the highschool-kid soap-opera stereotype, I think that?s what they mean when talking about "non-conformism". They are. And, as long as they don?t hurt anyone, it?s their problem and right.

I think it?s more ridiculous to invest so much time reverse-proofing their self-descriptions like the String Theory than dressing black and saying there?s no place for passionate outsiders in this world. Which there isn?t as this thread proves very well.

All this Goth-bashing actually made me interested so I read a few things about them for a while and ultimately I think they?re more about tolerance (than non-conformity as an end in itself). Like Buddhist take a statue of Jesus Christ when you hand it to them and put it next to their Buddha figures instead of calling you wrong and letting you burn in imaginary hell.


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