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Posted by Myrk- on Tue Dec 30th at 3:29pm 2003

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Posted by OtZman on Tue Dec 30th at 3:49pm 2003

Pentium + ATI [addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Tue Dec 30th at 3:57pm 2003

AMD and NVIDIA

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Posted by Adam Hawkins on Tue Dec 30th at 4:06pm 2003

Nvidia & Intel, though I don't think I take sides particularly, they were just the best I could get when I bought my pooter.

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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Tue Dec 30th at 4:37pm 2003

AMD & ATI [addsig]



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Posted by Forceflow on Tue Dec 30th at 4:42pm 2003

AMD & Ati



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Posted by tom on Tue Dec 30th at 5:40pm 2003

blatently amd and ati, well thats if your clever and dont want to pay extra money for over-priced s**te flogged by Nvidia and Intel.



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Posted by Skeletor on Tue Dec 30th at 7:26pm 2003

Pentium....

And I dunno about nVidia or ATI, I have an nVidia GeForce 4 but my brother just got an ATI RAdeon, Ill have to see how they compare. (My video card is kinda buggy?)

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Posted by Kage_Prototype on Tue Dec 30th at 7:40pm 2003

Ati and AMD [addsig]



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Posted by Edge Damodred on Tue Dec 30th at 8:31pm 2003

Rubber band and Hampster Wheel!!!

My family seems to emit radiation that ruins AMD machines, it's rather strange, so we tend to stay away from them.

As for ATI vs. NVidia...I really can't say. NVidia's always been strong and reliable,

ATI has gotten its act together, in hardware and finally in drivers(although I still vastly prefer the Omega Drivers to ATI's). ATI's are heading more towards D3D whereas NVidia leans more towards OpenGL.

OpenGL 2.0 will be out soon, although that just means everything that was optional in 1.5 will be required by the hardware vendors with 2.0. Anyone who says D3D can do more than OGL honestly doesn't know a damn thing about either API. I much prefer OGL to D3D simply because it's much much much easier to program and the updates for it are more frequent with various vendor Extensions. ATI supports NVidia's popular extensions and NVidia supports ATI's popular extensions. Eventually those extensions are usually officially added to OGL by the ARB.

The other aspects of DirectX are great though. DirectInput is great for getting input from just about any peripheral device. DirectShow makes playing music and videos in games a breeze, and DirectSound is very solid. I haven't messed with DirectPlay yet, haven't really built a networkable game to test it out on yet.

D3D is gonna take it easy for a bit, since MS working on their Longhorn OS which has something to replace DirectX altogether. Whether this happens or not remains to be seen.

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Posted by scary_jeff on Tue Dec 30th at 10:14pm 2003

Nice new feature Lep



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Posted by Campaignjunkie on Tue Dec 30th at 10:50pm 2003

Omai...

I prefer Nvidia, mostly because ATI's crappy earlier cards almost prevented me from mapping altogether. I also like Intel/Pentium, as when one sells their old computer off, people will be wowed by the number of Pentiums you have (Pentium 3? Wowzers!) and its generally easier to sell.

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Posted by DesPlesda on Wed Dec 31st at 12:18am 2003

Ugh, the poll doesn't work in Epiphany.

I prefer AMD and nVidia, because the Linux drivers for ATi are s**te, and UT2k3 on Slackware > Everything.



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Posted by Leperous on Wed Dec 31st at 12:50am 2003

? posted by DesPlesda
Ugh, the poll doesn't work in Epiphany.

Hey, is that some kind of sandwich spread or something? And how does it not work, can you not vote?





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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Dec 31st at 1:48am 2003

I will never buy ATI after my experience with the ATI 3d Rage Pro and my old Compaq. Old grudges die hard...and I don't care if they have their act together, they can just as easily lose it.



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Posted by fraggard on Wed Dec 31st at 1:52am 2003

I wonder if any of you have ever used a SiS graphics card. The strength of the dark force is great in that one.

Compared to my old SiS 6216 and 6326, anything is better.

*Edit: Heh... Intel and Nvidia. Best I could afford at the time





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Posted by Gorbachev on Wed Dec 31st at 3:19am 2003

AMD and ATI by far. [addsig]



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Posted by wil5on on Wed Dec 31st at 4:30am 2003

I like AMD & ATI. I'm a cheap bastard, you see.

OK, I am using an nvidia card at the moment, only cos I'm saving up for a new radeon.

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Posted by Crono on Wed Dec 31st at 5:30am 2003

AMD & NVIDIA all the way. Simply because ATI's main focus on '3d acceleration' is using directX, otherwise known as Microsoft only. While NVIDIA is more suited for OpenGL which is compatible with all OS'.

AMD because, number one, they are less expensive. In comparison of each competitor?s basic component speed and cache size, AMD has better design.

The XPs are made to counter Celerons and the Bartons is made to counter P4s.

Dare to compare:

Celeron 2500 400MHz $89
FSB: 400 MHz
Floating Point Pipelines: 2
L1 cache: 12kb
L2 cache: 128kb


AMD Athol XP 2400+ $88
FSB: 266MHz
Floating point pipelines: 3
L1 cache: 128KB
L2 cache: 256KB

Intel Pentium 4 2.667GHz 533MHz FSB $179
FSB: 533MHz
Floating point pipelines: 2
L1 cache: 12KB
L2 cache: 512KB

AMD Barton 2600+ $114
FSB: 333MHz
Floating point pipelines: 3
L1 cache: 128KB
L2 cache: 512KB

I just thought this would be some food for thought. Yes, I know the Intel chips require more bus bandwidth, but that is only because those chips have smaller caches. A bigger cache would make the processor, to you, run faster. Unless you used this computer to run 30 different programs within an hour, every day, on a regular basis, the AMD is much more efficient.

None the less one bad thing about AMD is that, they're copying Intel. Also, you have to give Intel the acknowledgement that they invented the X86 Architecture. But, it took real genius' to invent the monstrosity called the IBM360, ~cringes~

Oh one more thing, A mac isn't so bad if it's a G4 with OSX and a two button mousewheel mouse. Because then it is more stable then windows and can run most of the same programs (Being mostly Unix and all), except Half-Life because that was written with DirectX. [addsig]



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Posted by Rumple on Wed Dec 31st at 6:23am 2003

Intel & Nvidia cause i never had anyrhing else

[EDIT] I did have a Diamond Monster 3d2 but it never worked...

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