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Posted by Mr.INSANE on Fri Mar 30th at 1:06am 2007

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There is still no multi-core compiling, so multiple cores won't help.<BR>Is there a netvis release for source compiling, actually ?


Wrong, In compiling tools it allows you to choose how many thread's you want to use, Which can then be changed to witch core does what.

This is for Goldsrc with ZHLT

Generally if i wanted to make some sort of compiling monster id do the following

Single core (Honestly if its duel purpose compiling and mapping Duel Core is the way to go becuase you can still use one core while the other is compiling)
Make sure this is pretty damn fast Proccesor

Memory - The sky is the limit but i think You guys already said 2 Gb is good hell thats more than enough, Latency is important btw

The next is basicly me rambling about harddrive setups and other crap

id probally end up getting

Sata Western Digital Raptors in a raid configuration

(take in mind thats insane)


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Posted by Naklajat on Fri Mar 30th at 1:35am 2007

INSANE
Sorry I couldn't resist image

If you throw a bunch of beefy parts in your compy, like twice the RAM, some 10K RPM hard drives and a CPU that takes a whole lot more jiggawatts, don't neglect to upgrade your power supply. An overstressed power supply could end up frying itself and all your expensive new parts, and a cheap (low amperage, low efficiency) power supply adds a lot of heat and causes unstable voltages, overvoltage, and noisy current, all of which can lessen the lifespan of your components.


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Posted by Mr.INSANE on Fri Mar 30th at 2:53am 2007

Just throw in a BFG 1kw power supply and youll be good


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Posted by Crono on Fri Mar 30th at 5:02am 2007

Nothing needs anything close to a kW of power. Getting a kW power supply would be a waste of money. If you want to plan ahead, look at a 600W power supply.


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Posted by Riven on Fri Mar 30th at 5:13am 2007

I have a 550W that'll do eh? I was expecting to upgrade down the road so I got what I thought was a hefty power supply to begin with.


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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 30th at 10:17am 2007

I've always wondered. Does say a 500w tower pull 500w all the time or is it just capable of 500w peak?

Whats the idle wattage, if its not?

I have a 500w tower, I'd hate to think that 5 100w light bulbs are running 24/7. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">





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Posted by wil5on on Fri Mar 30th at 2:09pm 2007

Your PSU would get awfully hot if it were idling and still drawing 500W. I think the quoted wattage is maximum power output, so if you have 500W worth of stuff connected to it it will probably draw a bit more than that, but only slightly. Idle power drain from mains depends on idle power usage of specific parts in your box, it probably wouldnt be anywhere near 500W.

But if youre worried about wasting power, turn the thing off at night.




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Posted by Orpheus on Fri Mar 30th at 10:54pm 2007

I do, sometimes but I am oldschool and believe that more damage is done by turning them off/on.

Next question:

I have a mainboard that supports both ATA and SATA Hard drives. Can you use both simultaneously?

I ask because years ago I had a mainboard that supported both pc133 and pc2100. You had to chose which to use. You couldn't be running both at once.

I will be getting my library up soon and want to invest in a SATA drive and use my old 160gig ata drive for the library.





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Posted by Mr.INSANE on Fri Mar 30th at 11:28pm 2007

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Nothing needs anything close to a kW of power. Getting a kW power supply would be a waste of money. If you want to plan ahead, look at a 600W power supply.


Shouldve added my /Sarcasm tags


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Posted by mazemaster on Fri Mar 30th at 11:30pm 2007

"Nobody will ever need more than 640W of power."

-Crono


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Posted by fishy on Sat Mar 31st at 12:20am 2007

? quoting Orpheus
I have a mainboard that supports both ATA and SATA Hard drives. Can you use both simultaneously?

that would probably depend a lot on the individual board, but it works fine on my [now dated] nforce2




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 1:45am 2007

Thanx Fisheye.

That's good news.





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Posted by wil5on on Sat Mar 31st at 2:38am 2007

? quoting Orpheus
I do, sometimes but I am oldschool and believe that more damage is done by turning them off/on.

Thats silly, for the good of the planet, and your power bills, turn it off when youre not using it. I have machines that still work after being on 3-10 hours a day, every day, for 5ish years.




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Posted by Crono on Sat Mar 31st at 6:39am 2007

A lot of people ask me if they should get a 1kW power supply. They're not kidding either.

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"Nobody will ever need more than 640W of power."
-Crono


I didn't say that. But currently and in the near future, 600W+ consumption seems really unlikely unless the parts you have, have the absolute worst circuit designs in existence.

Turning your computer off does not hurt it ... using your computer hurts it.

I think what you may be confusing it with is battery life. Turning a laptop repeatedly on and off, for example, will drain more power than leaving the thing on. It's because there's a high level of disc activity and all the memory is being "combed" and things like that. Lots of computations. While leaving the computer on will allow it to have idle state.

Then again, when it comes to laptops, the biggest power drainer is the screen.

Any board with a PATA and SATA connection will allow both simultaneously (they're seperate circuits). The question of obscurity is "can you use them both with RAID" and that's when you check the chipset manufacturer's documentation. Most recent ones allow that also.


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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 10:44am 2007

? quoting wil5on
? quoting Orpheus
I do, sometimes but I am oldschool and believe that more damage is done by turning them off/on.

Thats silly,

Perhaps, but it is a view shared by many old school types.

Technology changes. Once upon a time a screensaver was needed. That concept is no longer true. You can leave your monitor on indefinitely with no harm incurred.

Perhaps the same is now true with the tower.

However, I do not leave my pc on idle most nights. How do you reckon my library soared past 30 gigs in so short a time period? <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">





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Posted by wil5on on Sat Mar 31st at 12:15pm 2007

I've heard of lower quality LCDs, and definitely CRTs not liking being left on all the time, but thats besides the point. You wont notice any lifetime differences between a box left on and a box thats turned off at night, at least not until theyre outdated. So the only consideration there is running cost, which is better than halved by not leaving it on constantly.

If its doing something useful overnight then fine, but wasted power is not a good thing. A lot of people (as far as I can see, only in the US) leave their computers on 24/7 doing absolutely nothing for most of that, which is just decadent. Think of the ice caps, turn it off when youre not using it.




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