What do you do when you aren't here?
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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 11:08am 2007


The discussion on many of our minds recently has circled around time constraints. Most of us, me included, have pretty full schedules. Mine are work related, and I am sure some share that.

The point of this poll is to focus our attentions on if our schedules are truly full, or if our lives have just taken a path away. Tis true that no poll will truly show this, but I am betting that it will get us to thinking about ourselves. The future of mapping begins with each individual.

For instance. My work schedule is indeed full. I leave on a 4 day run to somewhere and am so tired when I get home that I cannot hardly sleep for the fatigue. However, I am no more busy or tired now, than I was when I produced my maps in the past. I use the fatigue as an excuse more now. Mostly, because its true, but partly to disguise my lack of interest in mapping.

So which is it? Are you busy enough to not map, or just busy?

( I realize that it may be a combination of these choices in this poll, but its hard to have any poll with clear cut choices. Pick the one most likely )





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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by Gwil on Sat Mar 31st at 11:32am 2007


Hmmm.....

I voted option #1, as it happens.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 11:36am 2007


I kinda figure most will be number one. Even if choosing so is an excuse.

I was leaning toward it myself, but opted for "other". Since my being unmotivated is more honest than my being to tired from working.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Gwil on Sat Mar 31st at 11:49am 2007


TBH the extra time I have is used for editing/reading Wonkypedia - which I class as sort of studying anyhow, going to the pub 2/3 times a week - thats nearly 10-15 hours in total and finally I still play games - Armed Assault, where one sitting lasts 4-6 hours... to say nothing of the allotment I recently took on, travel time, cooking and cleaning (its how I pay the rent).

Really I should say other but as the majority of my week is spent inside or outside Uni looking at exciting topics such as the British Aristocracy YAWN, my answer is school.

edit: but #5 is definately not included.




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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 12:04pm 2007


Somehow, when you think about it, having school or school related excuses seems more noble to me.

I mean, I am simply tired from work. Thats not really all that noble, but learning or teaching is so cool that having it as a legitimate reason takes the sting out of not being able to map.

I'd give anything to be able to go back to school. Most won't appreciate my sentiment for a few years yet, but its true. You guys make me feel so dumb sometimes that its a struggle to return afterward.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by wil5on on Sat Mar 31st at 12:19pm 2007


I have a busy schedule every day, consisting of:

Studying engineering
Working as a teaching and research assistant
Studying Mandarin Chinese

But every day, even though I rarely post, I take the time to read Snarkpit.




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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by Junkyard God on Sat Mar 31st at 12:55pm 2007


Number 6 because it's 1, 3 ad 4, girlfriend, guitar, school, band, beer <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif"> you know.


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Posted by reaper47 on Sat Mar 31st at 1:55pm 2007


I recently found an old disk with Deus Ex and now I'm playing it in order to reach the Hong Kong levels (my favorite SP maps ever).

Time isn't really the problem. I usually have a few-days-long mapping rush followed by a month of mapping-hibernation. That's enough to drag a big map from beta to beta or even to finish a small one (which I should try next). Often when work is the most stressful it's the easiest to enjoy mapping because you remember it's something you choose to do as a hobby and not an annoying "task" to finish or anything.

I wish more of the forum regulars would try out HL2DM mapping, I feel kinda alone. That's what usually takes away my enthusiasm for loading up Hammer. <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/sad.gif">






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Posted by KoRnFlakes on Sat Mar 31st at 1:58pm 2007


work/guitar consumes most of my time.






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Posted by Naklajat on Sat Mar 31st at 3:16pm 2007


Drawing, modeling, guitar, reading, working out, learning math, playing with electricity (electrolysis, electromagnets, generators, etc), work when I can get it, so pretty much #4 90% of the time.


=o



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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by OtZman on Sat Mar 31st at 4:04pm 2007


I've lost interest in mapping, but I never mapped much to begin with so no big loss.

Just a little thought: What's the point in trying to force new life into the Snarkpit? If you've lost interest or don't have the time, so what? If you play games/hang out with gf/work/party/whatever instead of mapping, it's probably because you value doing that more, why try forcing yourself to map?

Sure, it sucks if Snarkpit dies. I don't map but I still enjoy coming here. But what's the point in trying to force all the members that are doing things they obviously value more than mapping to come back/map more?







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Posted by Stadric on Sat Mar 31st at 8:38pm 2007


I'm trying to finish my Senior year of high school with as good grades as possible. Which at this point means just turning in everything on time, which, by itself, is hard. I can just imagine how much fun college will be.

I'm just feeling uninspired right now. I've even been struggling with writing lately, and I can usually churn out 500 worth-while words in half an hour from sitting down.

It will take some time, but I'll eventually start mapping again. It won't even take that long, once Lent is over I'll probably be feeling a whole lot better about mapping.

I owe it to my mod to keep working.
(I haven't even started on what I said I'd do in the last update.)



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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 8:47pm 2007


? quoting OtZman
Sure, it sucks if Snarkpit dies. I don't map but I still enjoy coming here. But what's the point in trying to force all the members that are doing things they obviously value more than mapping to come back/map more?

Force just seems like to strong a word IMO. Forcing someone to wear seatbelts, thats something I imagine force would take a part of but trying to force someone to map is beyond my comprehension.

Yes, it could be said that rehashing mapping could be excessive but it seems to me that the only thing missing now days is incentive, not really a lack of not being forced.

I dunno exactly how to state my views to make it seem less of an obligation. To map isn't an obligation but sometimes it takes a lot of incentive.

My maps have substantial gaps between release dates. Thats not because I had lots of unreleased maps between them, but more a presence of mappers block. It took lots of people, with lots of enthusiasm to get me to make another each time.

I suppose it could be viewed as forcing, but I just cannot bring myself to admit that.

Sorry.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by fishy on Sat Mar 31st at 10:03pm 2007


I'm quite picky when it comes to eating, and the only way that I'll eat a large meal is if I eat a little, then add some more to my plate. If you heap a huge portion onto a single plate, then it'll put me off, and I'll only eat a little. It's like the thought of having to eat it all is too much.

HL2 had the same effect on many HL1 mappers.

If, as I've said before, our current membership had nibbled a little bit now and again over the past couple of years, we'd be in a position to order dessert by now, with cherries on top.

So, if the Snarkpit is truely dying of anorexia, then the promise of tastey cakes from a new cake shop won't make much difference.

btw, I didn't vote, as there was no 'I still map' option.




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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by OtZman on Sat Mar 31st at 10:12pm 2007


Orph: Maybe not forcing to map, but creating mapping incentives by force is a better way to put it. I really don't know. Even though I've been here 4 or 5 years I still see myself as a newcomer, and I've always had the feeling that Snarkpit had it's greatest days before my arrival. On top of that I've never been that into mapping, so tbh I don't know what the community looked like during it's best days, or the incentives that existed back then.

I feel like the interest in mapping in general is declining and that there is no way to turn this around, but that could also be because I don't keep my eyes open to mapping related topics/materials because I've lost interest myself.







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Posted by mazemaster on Sat Mar 31st at 10:33pm 2007


Main reason I stopped mapping is that HL2dm isnt that good a dm game.





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Posted by Orpheus on Sat Mar 31st at 10:42pm 2007


? quoting fishy

btw, I didn't vote, as there was no 'I still map' option.

"Other: please explain" didn't fill your desires Fish? Sorry, but 6 slots leaves a lot to be desired.

@Otz,

I never realized until just now what a major difference in joining dates between our memberships. I know that most of you feel that I am fixated on such but its simply not true.

There are nearly 2 full years between 8 and 77.

Seriously though, I do not judge people on their age nearly as much as the perception they give as to how old they are.

IE, Doc Rock is old, acts like a child. Cassius is or was very young and acts much older.

Anywho, I'd never consider us n00bs exactly, but I am sorely inadequate where HL2 mapping is concerned so, in that light I am green as a gourd.





The best things in life, aren't things.



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Posted by Naklajat on Sun Apr 1st at 12:15am 2007


For me: HL2DM kinda sucks, mapping for CS:S is a big dead end (as I see it), and no Source mods have really caught my attention enough to make me want to make a map for them. I've recently been thinking about starting a fairly short single-player campaign, maybe...

If you feel like mapping is a forced activity for you, you should probably move on to something else. I haven't sat down an worked on a map in months, excluding the recent doors comp, but I think I've still got the mapping bug, albeit in a currently dormant state. I've definitely still got the game design bug, but these days I'm leaning more towards concept art and modeling.




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Posted by fishy on Sun Apr 1st at 12:20am 2007


? quoting Orpheus
"Other: please explain" didn't fill your desires Fish? Sorry, but 6 slots leaves a lot to be desired.

i thought the 'other' was meant as "other reasons for killing the snarkpit by not mapping". my mistake.




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Re: What do you do when you aren't here?
Posted by Orpheus on Sun Apr 1st at 12:41am 2007


? quoting fishy
? quoting Orpheus
"Other: please explain" didn't fill your desires Fish? Sorry, but 6 slots leaves a lot to be desired.

i thought the 'other' was meant as "other reasons for killing the snarkpit by not mapping". my mistake.

Well it kinda works both ways I guess.

I reckon you could say other, because when you aren't here (which the question asked) you are mapping.

Sometimes, for threads like this, I wish we could pick how many options to have in a poll, from 1 - ?





The best things in life, aren't things.




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