As far as I know current SATA drives only have SATA power connectors.
In either case, plugging in too many power connectors (if that's possible) to a HDD shouldn't make the computer un-responsive.
Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Crono on Fri Aug 31st at 5:14am 2007
Posted by Crono on Fri Aug 31st at 5:14am 2007
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Riven on Fri Aug 31st at 6:06am 2007

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Posted by Riven on Fri Aug 31st at 6:06am 2007
My Toshibas have both, and I learned the hard way. The only time it happened, the computer powered on, but I got blackness after the bios. After reading, that's what I learned.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Crono on Fri Aug 31st at 8:06am 2007
1st: that's bizarre
2nd: Why would you buy a HDD from Toshiba?
3rd: He isn't seeing ANYTHING on the screen, no BIOS or anything else.
Posted by Crono on Fri Aug 31st at 8:06am 2007
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My Toshibas have both, and I learned the hard way. The only time it happened, the computer powered on, but I got blackness after the bios. After reading, that's what I learned.
1st: that's bizarre
2nd: Why would you buy a HDD from Toshiba?
3rd: He isn't seeing ANYTHING on the screen, no BIOS or anything else.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by wil5on on Fri Aug 31st at 10:56am 2007

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Posted by wil5on on Fri Aug 31st at 10:56am 2007
Um, if you think the hard drive is the problem, disconnect it entirely and see if you get anything on the screen. But like Crono said, the hard drive wouldnt cause a problem like that.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Aug 31st at 4:53pm 2007

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Posted by omegaslayer on Fri Aug 31st at 4:53pm 2007
You could have some bad RAM. I ordered some off of newegg and it didn't work in my system, it wouldn't even boot up. So I tried some friends RAM and my computer booted up just fine. I guess it was the buffered/unbuffered type of thing...I really don't remember right now.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by RedWood on Fri Aug 31st at 7:52pm 2007
Posted by RedWood on Fri Aug 31st at 7:52pm 2007
I swapped out the power supply with my own and that wasn't the problem. So I'm hoping it was just the gfx card. Odd though, this board has a 24 pin power and a 8 pin power connector. (+ dedicated gfx power) I've never seen that plug before. i don't even have it on the power supply in my computer.
If this doesn't fix the problem I'll try the ram thing. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127273
EDIT: I'm moving, I'm probably going to go off line Sunday and i don't know when I'll have internet back. Plus I'm probably switching providers.
If this doesn't fix the problem I'll try the ram thing. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127273
EDIT: I'm moving, I'm probably going to go off line Sunday and i don't know when I'll have internet back. Plus I'm probably switching providers.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Naklajat on Fri Aug 31st at 9:37pm 2007

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Posted by Naklajat on Fri Aug 31st at 9:37pm 2007
Look in the manual for "Reset CMOS" or "Clear CMOS", it requires you to put a small jumper on two tiny pins (usually labeled 'JP1') and basically forces the BIOS to reset to it's default state. Its somewhat of a long shot, but it's worth a try.
Failing that, try connecting only the bare minimum components required to boot the computer (ie CPU, GFX, 1 stick of RAM(try each one separately)) remove or disconnect everything else, don't even plug in a keyboard at this point. If it still doesn't work you've narrowed the problem to the motherboard, CPU, graphics card, RAM, or power supply, and you're certain it isn't any of the drives or PCI cards making the motherboard refuse to boot.
It sounds to me like your motherboard might have been DOA. It would be worth it IMHO to return the Biostar and get something from a reputable brand like Gigabyte or ASUS.
Failing that, try connecting only the bare minimum components required to boot the computer (ie CPU, GFX, 1 stick of RAM(try each one separately)) remove or disconnect everything else, don't even plug in a keyboard at this point. If it still doesn't work you've narrowed the problem to the motherboard, CPU, graphics card, RAM, or power supply, and you're certain it isn't any of the drives or PCI cards making the motherboard refuse to boot.
It sounds to me like your motherboard might have been DOA. It would be worth it IMHO to return the Biostar and get something from a reputable brand like Gigabyte or ASUS.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Crono on Sat Sep 1st at 1:42am 2007
Posted by Crono on Sat Sep 1st at 1:42am 2007
Gigabyte and Asus? Reputable brands!? Whatever.
Not connecting the external power for the graphics card will only become an issue when you try to do 3D acceleration stuff within whatever OS you're using (it'll also pop up a message that the card doesn't have adequate power).
Not connecting the external power for the graphics card will only become an issue when you try to do 3D acceleration stuff within whatever OS you're using (it'll also pop up a message that the card doesn't have adequate power).
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by RedWood on Sat Sep 1st at 9:01pm 2007
Posted by RedWood on Sat Sep 1st at 9:01pm 2007
Thanks BVS. If the gfx card fails i try the one stick of ram thing or the cmos reset.
I didn't want to start a new topic for this but... Does any know anything about the response time that wow cable internet has compared to what Comcast provides. Not the download or upload speed. Just the response time between connections. I know theirs a lot of variables (like distance for a node) but is their a more general rule. I dsl faster than cable?
I didn't want to start a new topic for this but... Does any know anything about the response time that wow cable internet has compared to what Comcast provides. Not the download or upload speed. Just the response time between connections. I know theirs a lot of variables (like distance for a node) but is their a more general rule. I dsl faster than cable?
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Crono on Sat Sep 1st at 9:50pm 2007
Posted by Crono on Sat Sep 1st at 9:50pm 2007
DSL is not faster than Cable ... in general. Comcast specifically? Well ... I can only tell you my personal experience with them which was, to be nice, horrible. They claimed all sorts of speeds and such that we never got because EVERYONE had the same deal (Speeds are partially determined by response times from the server ... and this is a real world example). It was also, just about, the most unreliable connection I've ever had. It would regularly cut off every day and the modem would have to be turned off and back on. I know people who've never had that problem (with the same model and make on the modem even), but, obviously, it's possible.
Comcast also costs a lot and WILL raise the fees any time they feel like it.
I know nothing about the other provider you listed, however.
As far as I remember, in general, DSL depends on how far away you are, and cable depends on how many people share the line.
Comcast also costs a lot and WILL raise the fees any time they feel like it.
I know nothing about the other provider you listed, however.
As far as I remember, in general, DSL depends on how far away you are, and cable depends on how many people share the line.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by RedWood on Wed Sep 12th at 6:44pm 2007
Posted by RedWood on Wed Sep 12th at 6:44pm 2007
I'm using a school comp right now. I should have my net connection back Friday.
Mobo is dead. I'll be sending it back today
" SRC="images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif"> . Cleaning the thermal past off is going to be a pain. Biostar can kiss my ass. They own me $9.87.
And i went with Wide Open West.
Mobo is dead. I'll be sending it back today
And i went with Wide Open West.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by RedWood on Wed Sep 26th at 7:52am 2007
Posted by RedWood on Wed Sep 26th at 7:52am 2007
Who wants to hear something funny? The mobo was never dead. After receving the second one and having the same problums i when back and read the user comments at newegg. Turns out the auxiliary 8 pin power connector is mandatory. WTF!! I would have tried plugging it in but my psu doesn't have a 8 pin power connector. Turns out u can plug the 4 pin power connector into the 8 pin slot that does come with psu. once again, WTF!! Other people were calling it, and i agree, pore documentation.
All is running smooth now. Just a few programs left to install.
All is running smooth now. Just a few programs left to install.
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Crono on Wed Sep 26th at 6:14pm 2007
Posted by Crono on Wed Sep 26th at 6:14pm 2007
Strange, that sounds like the first thing I suggested you look at ... hmm. 
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Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by RedWood on Thu Sep 27th at 3:59am 2007
Argg. If i only knew u could plug a 4 pin connector into a 8 pin socket. All hail Crono.
O, and i almost forgot. Thank you everyone. I kind of fell like I'm stealing from guys. Always asking questions and not being able to ancer any of your own.
Posted by RedWood on Thu Sep 27th at 3:59am 2007
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Strange, that sounds like the first thing I suggested you look at ... hmm. 
Argg. If i only knew u could plug a 4 pin connector into a 8 pin socket. All hail Crono.
O, and i almost forgot. Thank you everyone. I kind of fell like I'm stealing from guys. Always asking questions and not being able to ancer any of your own.
Reality has become a commodity.
Re: Windows reinstal
Posted by Stadric on Thu Sep 27th at 4:12am 2007
Posted by Stadric on Thu Sep 27th at 4:12am 2007
Didn't I say to never talk to strangers and to always trust Crono?
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