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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Jan 5th at 4:41am 2004

I don't know how many of you fellows know about this, but as of January 1 Orpheus has 'retired' from HL1 mapping and editing. I doubt he'll be showing up here often, considering he hasn't been around since like the 17th of December yet has posted recently at Prefabland (ps: not a stalker ).

Anyways, he gave me the last compiled version of the map and the .map and .rmf files. I can't check how the compiled map looks until I get back to college (stupid online-required Steam), but based on the last version I saw I'm going to assume the weapon placement, player starts, and various other things still need work. I'm completely willing to pick up where he left off and work on that stuff, my only problem being I have no way of compiling it. So if I were to continue on I would need someone who can and will compile this thing.

The question of the hour is whether or not I should work on improving it or just cut our losses and release the map as is. I'm of the opinion that since so much work by the community has been put into it releasing it now would be a disservice, but if everyone else wants to wash their hands of it I will be willing to let it go.

I don't want to give an address for the map since I don't want the .rmfs given out to the public, but if there is demand I will.

This sucks for many reasons...





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Posted by Tracer Bullet on Mon Jan 5th at 5:13am 2004

The Snark Pit without Orph? the average daily post count will plummit! I'd been wondering what had happend to him. that really is quite a loss for this place





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Posted by Cassius on Mon Jan 5th at 6:54am 2004

WHAT THE f**k?!

He didn't even say anything, after coming here for years - I'd seen his profile that said retired, I didn't believe it. Do you know this for sure, Yak? I think in Orph's case I can borrow the words "he really tied the room together," from the Big Lebowski, except for the fact that this is a site, not a room, and he isn't a rug. Terrible jokes aside though, Orph was really something amazing and instrumental in the entire soul of the Snarkpit. Nobody else took the time to screenshot every point of their reviews, nobody else had a postcount that could even touch his - and of course, Orph always had an amazing faith and trust in a lot of people here, myself included.

The Snarkpit Crew map is really and ingenius project. If you really want it off your hands, I'd take it myself - it's probably one of the greatest mapping achievements of Half-Life, having several experienced mappers stich together one coherent product. Though I most likely couldn't map the half of what you fellows have made, I could at very least give it pretty textures

Sad that Orph left without releasing his final work.

[addsig]



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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Jan 5th at 7:39am 2004

That's why I did a double take myself when I saw the email. I would have expected some sort of announcement from him, given the amount of time he's spent here and in HL in general. He said in the email that he deleted HL and is done with mapping for it. Then he told me to get the last remaining files for the snarkpitcrew map before they were gone.

I do not doubt his sincerity in being done, since I watched him leave the [DRS] clan that he helped found, recruited like half of the good members, and was the entire reason the clan stayed together. He said he was gone, and he was gone forever (taking many others with him in the aftermath). I'd bet people could drag him back, but what would be the point if he doesn't want to be here?

It may just be that he's waiting for HL2 or something, I dunno. Orph is a tough one to figure out

As for the map, I am completely willing to finish it up, as long as I can get somebody to compile it or tell me all the files and special configurations I need to do it myself and if everyone accepts the changes I will make.

"This agression will not stand, man"





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Jan 5th at 7:46am 2004

well f**k a damn duck.....cant get ahold of him....&^%##%&*&^%##@@ .....yak....if you hear from him, tell him to gimme a f**kin holler would ya??......GRRRRR

Doc B....

s**t......s**t s**t s**t.....hell man, hes the guy who brought me into DRS in the first place, and the reason i quit after he left as well.....wtf chuck???.....the no notice thing kinda floors me.....





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Posted by Gollum on Mon Jan 5th at 10:23am 2004

I was wondering what had happened to Orph. It's a great loss to the SnarkPit community. Remember, everyone has their real life outside of these forums; Orpheus may have chosen to leave for reasons that have little to do with the SnarkPit itself (eg., posting here was taking too much time away from home life).

He may have chosen to leave without any warning in order to prevent a long drawn-out discussion with other members. It can be tough to leave a place (and people) of which you are very fond; sometimes "cold-turkey" is the best way.

It's also possible that he became frustrated with something about the Pit. If this is the case, he may return, since it's happened before.

Regardless, he'll be missed

[addsig]



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Posted by Sim on Mon Jan 5th at 11:07am 2004

And we failed in teaching him the multimanager [addsig]



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Posted by Leperous on Mon Jan 5th at 11:14am 2004

I'm sure we'll see him again in a few months I might be able to look at it for you Yak if you need to pass it on...





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Posted by Adam Hawkins on Mon Jan 5th at 11:43am 2004

I think he quit partly because an argument wasn't going his way - see the 'dm_osiris' thread.

If this was the case, I never intended to drive him away, as I still respect him as a mapper, but find it hard to respect his opinions at times (which you have to admit can be quite extreme).

Get him to come back if possible, he has a lot to offer many of the mappers here

And regarding the Snarkpit map, i'd be willing to lend a hand if you're interested.

[addsig]



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Posted by OtZman on Mon Jan 5th at 3:27pm 2004

? posted by fraggard

[addsig]



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Posted by Gwil on Mon Jan 5th at 4:06pm 2004

Well bugger me, I noticed he hadn't been around but I didn't realise it was a full blown exit..

[addsig]



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Posted by Forceflow on Mon Jan 5th at 4:56pm 2004

I don't think he left because of the little argument you got there 'bout dm_osiris ... that's not Orph-style

Anyway, I hope he'll be back.





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Posted by Dr Brasso on Mon Jan 5th at 5:15pm 2004

nope....he didnt....hes just tired of all the moronic, idiotic, disrespectful, obnoxious, and otherwise useless bulls**t that seems to come out of some of the members mouths here anymore....cant say as i blame him much...fighting just for the sake of fighting wasnt his style, and hes had enough.....ya f**kers gotta look thru the forest at the trees man....

Doc Brass...





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Posted by Forceflow on Mon Jan 5th at 5:39pm 2004

respect -> orph & brasso.



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Mon Jan 5th at 6:02pm 2004

Well he'll be around at prefabland if anyone wants him as Yak said. http://www.ejoop.com/members/showuser.asp?userid=1316&subsiteid=1

Hope he comes back.



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Posted by Mr.Ben on Mon Jan 5th at 8:40pm 2004

He'll be back, it calls to him... he needs it... his precious.

[addsig]



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Posted by Gollum on Mon Jan 5th at 8:55pm 2004

What exactly are you insinuating, Mr. Ben? [addsig]



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Posted by 7dk2h4md720ih on Tue Jan 6th at 2:00am 2004

I think we should chenge the name of the map to something Orph orientated, or put a wee shrin in it for him, seeing at it'll be his last release and he put so much into it. It's the least we could do.



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Posted by Leperous on Tue Jan 6th at 11:02am 2004

? posted by Alien_Sniper
I think we should chenge the name of the map to something Orph orientated, or put a wee shrine in it for him

How about a Doom2-secret-level style shrine!






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