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Posted by bengreenwood on Wed Aug 22nd at 5:45pm 2007

Okay, so I only got HL2 recently, and I finally completed it just now. Brilliant final episode, but overall I've got to say I'm pretty disappointed.

First, I can't believe how many bloody grunts there were in it! It seemed like 70 percent of the enemies were the same monster (except for having a shotgun or a machine gun!). And the middle levels got really repetitive. Hours and hours of running or driving around looking for somewhere to go, carrying out an objective that you really don't care about.

I mean what's the deal with your allies' clothing, anyway? They look like a bunch of "save the whales" hippy students from the 70s or something. I thought the bad guys were much cooler. And then there's Alex, with her strange, semi slow-motion movements. She runs like she's been stuck on a bus-ride for five hours.

It's a good game (there are some really beautiful moments, and the engine is really fun), but I think it's seriously over-rated. Nowhere near as good as Half-Life 1, in so many ways- storyline, locations, monsters, weapons etc. I don't understand why they cut the variety down so much in HL2.





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Posted by omegaslayer on Wed Aug 22nd at 6:05pm 2007

I respect your opinion and everything, you backed it up with good reason, and for the most part I agree with you on a few aspects <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif"> (Yes I think HL1 had more depth to it), but I have to ask: why critique a 3 year old game? hehe Don't take it the wrong way, its just here at the pit I think the whole critique HL2 is kinda over with. I guess we should ask if anyone here has completed HL2 recently.


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Posted by OtZman on Wed Aug 22nd at 7:28pm 2007

I've actually never completed HL2. I started playing but stopped mostly because I got motion sick when playing. I downloaded it again a couple of days ago though, so I might get around to play it.


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Posted by Finger on Wed Aug 22nd at 8:28pm 2007

You got something against whales?



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Posted by reaper47 on Wed Aug 22nd at 9:19pm 2007

HL2 taught me that "quality over quantity" is not everything. I missed the quantity.

When HL1 had 15 weapons (I didn't count), HL2 had 10. When there were 30 different enemies in HL1 (again - didn't count), there were 20 in HL2. Considering most of the guns and enemies were copied from HL1 and that a lot of them were just variations of the same (3 types of headcraps, 3 types of zombies, 3 types of grunts, 2 types of helicopters,...) the fights got repetitive pretty soon. And they didn't bother thinking of an equivalent for the assassins, the alien grunts and all the other really freaky ideas of HL1. Instead they merged Snarks and the huge-ass tentacles into one kind of boring, Starship Troopers-style bugs. Instead of cool scientists and even cooler barneys you got CS-stlye, nameless soldiers running along with you in big hordes.

The physics gameplay made it all up for me, personally, but I hope they're thinking of a few new things to shoot (and shoot with) for Episode 2.


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Posted by bengreenwood on Thu Aug 23rd at 4:58am 2007

Nothing against whales, actually they're really cool. I'm against whaling, killing them via pollution etc., I'm just not sure environmentalist hippies have the solutions. Especially the ones in Half-Life 2.

Anyway yeah, about HL2. I'm just amazed at the reception it got, really. Again, don't get me wrong- it's a great game, and I enjoyed it. Like Reaper says, the physics lead to some really fun moments. It's just not the best game ever. Too many grunts.





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Posted by Le Chief on Thu Aug 23rd at 6:09am 2007

I really hate weapons like the Guass Cannon and egon and snarks from half-life1. I suppose the combine made the civilans dress that way in hl2. I do agree though, I was sick of fighting the combine.

The story was better in hl2, things like the seven hour war, .... all that stuff made it cool. I liked the easter eggs in half-life 1 though.

Anyways imo, games like hl1 and hl2 dont have much replay value. You have completed the puzzels already, its not fun to do them twice and the ai, well its good but repetitive.

Physics are cool, but well there is also physics in goldsource to <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">




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Posted by wil5on on Thu Aug 23rd at 9:31am 2007

I enjoyed HL2 more than any other SP game I've played yet. I dont know exactly why that is. I guess I found it easy to get caught up in the story. I agree the game does lack a bit of depth as far as combat is concerned, but for me the depth of story makes up for it.

Anyway, if you dont like the game as it is, go make a better SP campaign for it. Thats what this site is here for, I suppose.




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Posted by reaper47 on Thu Aug 23rd at 3:29pm 2007

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I really hate weapons like the Guass Cannon and egon and snarks from half-life1.

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Anyways imo, games like hl1 and hl2 dont have much replay value. You have completed the puzzels already, its not fun to do them twice and the ai, well its good but repetitive.
Physics are cool, but well there is also physics in goldsource to image


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Posted by omegaslayer on Thu Aug 23rd at 5:34pm 2007

The Gauss Cannon (I thought anyways) was one of the first unique weapons in first person shooters. It was your power house for taking out choopers, tanks, turrets from a distance with extreme power.

As far as replay value...i'll have to disagree with HL1. Load up office complex and replay it. You'll find a lot of little secrets and complexity. Same deal with surface tension. Surface tension is when you bring out the big guns to fight with lots of explosions and combat. I like to load up those levels and replay them from time to time. Its funny how both chapters are made by Dario Casali.


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Posted by Stadric on Thu Aug 23rd at 6:54pm 2007

Aaron, this is not the place to say that if you want to keep your head! <img src=" SRC="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">

I agree with you about HL2, though, I've only played it all the way through twice, but I've beaten HL1 more times than I can count.

As for Aaron's dislike of the gauss, that's probably because he never got to play much HLDM, which is where it really shines, IMO.


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Posted by Cash Car Star on Thu Aug 23rd at 7:55pm 2007

I was too busy playing HLDM, CS, FLF, SI, NS, Poke646, and TS to play through HL1 more than once.



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Posted by Gaara on Fri Aug 24th at 1:52am 2007

The main attraction for me in HL2 was the way the characters were animated in the non-fighting sequences. And that secret area in HL2 where the secret ending is viewed was pretty cool too.



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Posted by Le Chief on Fri Aug 24th at 6:22am 2007

I guess I dont like the guass because its unrealistic. I also thought the rpg is so unbalanced. For example, crossfire, its on the floor, out in the open where anyone can easily get it and make cheap kills. Mabye this is because I play alot of lan with like 2-5 people ( and mabye its designed for more folks ) but they (valve) have to think about that. Imagine a two player game on crossfire. Someone graps the gauss, the rpg and the egon and makes cheap kills (bloody campers!) and they can because they can hold every weapon they pick up and not just 2. Half-life 1 is fun with alot of people though and I can see how the rpg in the middle of crossfire would be fair.

He's gonna deny this, but when me and white test out reddawn multiplayer maps, it is so boring. He sucks at half-life, it would be nice if could handicap my self.

But if I didn't like half-life 1 or 2 I wouldn't be mapping for it. And no joke, but one of the teachers at my school looks like Gordon Freemen from half-life 2.

What secret area/ending Gaara?




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Aug 24th at 6:59am 2007

But it's out on the floor, in the middle of the room, exposed to attack from all sides. You want to get the RPG? There it is. But you can't watch all the windows. You're making yourself a target most the time.

Most of the HLDM weapons can be DEADLY. The .357 with a headshot = death. Double shotgun blast to the chest from point blank = death. Side grenade from MP5 = death. Crossbow quicksnipe = death. Well-timed hand grenade throw = death (if you think they're a weak weapon, you haven't DMed against me). It's not all about the Egon. The gauss is great because once you learn to Gauss jump with the LJM, you have lift off like nothing else.



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Posted by Le Chief on Fri Aug 24th at 7:13am 2007

Oh yea thats right, The grenades are useless because there is no physics in half-life. The bounce un realisticly off walls and the speed and distance of the grenade depends on how fast you are walking.

But thats because half-life is an old game that was the best of the best back than.




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Aug 24th at 7:52am 2007

It's not about realism, it's learning to use them. They have a timer, c**k it, hold it, throw it just right and you can make it explode in someone's face, midair. Don't bounce it off a wall.



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Posted by Gwil on Fri Aug 24th at 10:19am 2007

Grenades were one of my favourite weapons on HLDM. That along with the "double shotgun" and crowbar were my preferred kills.



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Posted by Le Chief on Fri Aug 24th at 11:44am 2007

Although its not realistic or good in terms of design, I always like killing my foes with a crossbow, zoomed in. I'm a good sniper.

I didn't think about holding the hand grenade back and waiting. I suppose it is alright.




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Posted by Cash Car Star on Fri Aug 24th at 5:16pm 2007

That's not how to use a crossbow. You gotta quicksnipe. Run around unzoomed, find someone, pull the crosshair on him, then right-click, left-click really quickly. All the aiming power and maneuverability of primary fire, all the deadliness of secondary fire. Then, hit your bind for shotgun and do a double blast while you're waiting for the crossbow to 'recharge'. Probably a good time to launch an MP5 grenade, and then back over to the crossbow. You can become a monster if you try.




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