Yeah, there was a rumour Stanley Kubrick was hired to film the whole thing ...

I don't believe it ... scientists have been able to take pictures of the American Flag planted on the moon, using giant telescopes, I think.

? posted by www.snarkpit.com http:>Gwil

Mine was slightly tongue in cheek Brass, although I don't believe the moon landings were real - can't be arsed to debate/dont want to debate that point anyhow, it's been done before

i knew it was tongue in cheek bud...truly. and i really dont want to debate something like that, especially with someone i truly respect...but i must admit i am surprised that you think it was all a hoax....think of the time frame when it first was raised as an issue...Watergate was in full swing, the corruption of the then US administration, which is well documented btw......Vietnam tearing this country apart, all the things in the world that wre dear to me were being turned on their collective ears....and the space landings were the one thing that brought this country together, if just for a little while....a little ray of sunshine in an otherwise spectacularly f**ked up time period.....if it turns out someday that you are right and it was a vast conspiracy, then sir, i will apologize to you profusely, and fly anywhere in the world to buy you a beer, and kiss yer spotty fat ass... damn i hope yer wrong....yuk!

as for this point:

I thought Beagle was a european project as well, led by the brits? either way, we should think about spending our money on education and crime policy, not space exploration...

i truly think we can do both....but yer right, its a matter of priority, which is not too high on some f**kers list these days, no names mentioned....

Doc Brass...

OK now we're being sarcastic...

Silly British, Mars is for Yanks.

Ownership is irrelevent (or gaurenteed depending on your perspective) when you are the only one on the planet (or moon).

Seriously though, this is about science, not nationalism. That is why we sent a robot instead of men. The world is devided by politics and religion, but united by science. look at ITER and the ISS, two shining examples of international cooperation. both of them have encountered stumbling blocks along the way, but every one has been political in nature. we should just be happy that one of the three landers made it and leave it at that, without reference to the nationality of said lander.

God i hope so.....imagine the questions on the editing forum if they did not......

Doc B...

Gwil, can I throw you a frikkin' bone here, and ask you how faked photos prove we didn't go the moon- surely that could also just mean the photos they actually took turned out s**te and they made some new ones up back on Earth..?

Anyway, pretty much all of the 'anomalies' can be explained (which, strangely, people tend not to hear about )- stars aren't bright enough to turn up in the photos, strange lighting caused by light reflecting off the moon's surface, different direction shadows caused by slopes which you can't make out in the photos, etc... Plus it's my dream to go to Mars one day, so I'll give you a shout if I do

LOL!

Lol, cass.

White men c?n jump !

(I'm into trampoline myself. )