The Snarkpit Relaunch
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Fri Oct 24th at 12:24pm 2008


Ahh yes that red lined headers is So F'in Nice.. I really like that, and it reminds me of the old pit!

The Padding is also nice, and the blackout on mouse over is PERFECT!

The Red Submit button and Preview I am not crazy about... The Yellow Numbers in the lower right corner are not bad, and they draw attention to them so people know there are many more pages.

I LOVE the new Black/Yellow change theme logo.. great work on that!

I think were getting there LARCHY! its looking very good. The more yellow buttons over the green is so much better! The bits in Red and yellow all start to work together and we have a more unified look! Love the yellow link text too..

Over all FANTASTIC! just a few minor color fixes and I think you can call it done. There maybe some coding options on your end that need a little tweaking but so far its looking great! smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley

P.S. I really do think you need to address the left side though.. it makes the page off balance. Could you list a couple maps on the left and stick the download previews along the bottom of the page? I know it will change some of the other themes.. but I was under the impression that you were moving to the wider Blue and oldschool themes and dropping the green/dark thin themes? think that way you could do 3 of each. If not I think having the larger images on the left side and the smaller download previews along the bottom would work with all theme templates. But your the code expert and know better than I what works and what doesn't.. so I leave that to your expertise.

[ Edited by Muhnay on Fri Oct 24th 2008 at 5:29am - total edits: 1]




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Fri Oct 24th at 12:50pm 2008


The red submit buttons are just an oversight... they should be yellow like the other stuff.

When I can I'll do black/yellow/red themed graphics rather than just re-using the dark green ones.

I've modified the spotlight script so that maps always appear at the top - hopefully there are no objections to that.

I wasn't planning on dropping any of the current themes, just adding the new ones to the rotation. I could make the oldschool theme the default one though once its finished.




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Fri Oct 24th at 4:47pm 2008


Further progress is being made...


In a break from style-associated news I have modified the [ mapthumbs ][ /mapthumbs ] output so it uses the new auto-resize thumbnail do-widdlyness. Thumbnails which were previously generated when a map was uploaded are now redundant and are no longer created. The maximum map screenshot width has been increased to 1680 pixels (ie 22" widescreen resolution which should improve screenshot quality a lot), although all images will still be resampled at a jpeg quality of 80 (which is the best filesize/quality tradeoff).




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by tnkqwe on Sat Oct 25th at 6:40am 2008


I think you have waisted a little bit too much space for the "Recent Forum Posts" and the "Recent Updates".The cp_oldschool and the cp_blue are "longer" than the the black and green theme.
But the cp_oldschool it's really like thinks in the past.
OH!And does any body knows what hapened with Leperous?



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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Sat Oct 25th at 9:51am 2008


Leperous is busy with real life (tsk!). I don't think he plays many games any more bar perhaps Civilization IV/Colonization.

He is studying for a PhD in stellar collapse (astronomy) at the University of Southampton is the last I heard from him. Knowing graduate students, he will be there for some time...




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Sun Oct 26th at 9:26am 2008


Would there be any objections if the new sp_oldschool theme was the only theme available for a little while?

The reason I ask is that I'm recoding & improving quite a few things on the backend, but I'm going to have to make changes to all the themes to accomodate some of them.
It would help me get things finished and uploaded for everyone quicker if I only had the one theme to worry about, and since the new sp_oldschool theme does look good and is more akin to the original site I thought I'd make the suggestion...




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Sun Oct 26th at 12:38pm 2008


If it makes your work more efficient and easily completed please go ahead and use it as the default!



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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Sun Oct 26th at 9:40pm 2008


You have my vote on it Larchy. I am already using it.. so it wont effect me at all. So please do.



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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Riven on Mon Oct 27th at 5:27am 2008


I'm cool with it.





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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Le Chief on Tue Oct 28th at 4:40am 2008


smiley

Might be a good idea to make a news post about this so that the visitors and new/old members won't be confused, I know that the "Old Skool Snarkpit" theme is a bit buggy in parts, making some things hard to read.

[ Edited by aaron_da_killa on Tue Oct 28th 2008 at 2:34pm - total edits: 1]






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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Cash Car Star on Thu Oct 30th at 2:57am 2008


Neat, this thing actually happened. I sort of miss the old version, but this is pretty nice too!



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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Thu Oct 30th at 2:55pm 2008


Hi there CCS! Nice to see you and the bouncing DK around these parts. How's life in Connecticut (sigh) ? I see you're now a "post student".. does this mean you've entered the murky world of post-grad?

aaron, i'll stick something on the news in a bit.. i've been neglecting the old pit lately in favour of procrastinating on my ever increasing pile of papers that need to be written and digging up oldies like Unreal Tournament.




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Oct 30th at 5:25pm 2008


OK, new update is up.

The new black theme is the only theme currently available to all users. It should be largely error free, and I have taken extra time to ensure that it works exactly the same with Internet Explorer as with other browsers. Hopefully it should be good for everyone, but do please let me know any issues so I can fix them.

Front page has been modified a bit - the spotlight layout has changed slightly to what I feel is a cleaner display of information. A small list of latest maps is also now present underneath the main news.

User profiles have changed slightly, and I have some plans on how to develop them into useful portfolio pages - do please check them out and provide any constructive feedback you may have. There is a new option in the edit profile menu to allow you select your main featured map, otherwise the latest map you uploaded will be used. tnkqwe you may want to explore this as your profile could currently cause heart attacks for the unprepared :P

The code for posting in the forums has been rewritten from scratch. You shouldn't notice any major effects from this, although the actual posting page has been improved. For example caret focus is now stored properly so tags/smilies will be added at the point of the cursor whereas they were always added at the end of the text you had typed so far. A few new tags are supported too, such as the youtube tags. Topic review has been improved, and there is an easy to use quote button alongside each post too. Post preview has changed too to allow you to edit alongside the preview display. All in all I hope things are a good improvement for people.

Probably a few other things in places too... anything you spot that is out of place let me know so I can fix it please.

I haven't forgotten about things like adding a view of a user's posting history or actually making the search worth a damn - I will get them sorted in the not too distant future.

cheers.

NB - remember to CRTL+F5 refresh your browser to clear its cache of old stylesheet versions and older javascript files if you experience any issues.




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Riven on Thu Oct 30th at 6:43pm 2008


Wow, super sexy there Larchy! I love the pop-up panels when hovering over the front-page map thumbnails. -Could we implement that feature elsewhere?

The 'about us' page is very nice, and I would give you an A+ for your addition smiley

I don't have time now, but I want to try that new flash button you've added!

looking pretty swell there. It's got me pumped. I'll be sure to post later about what else I've discovered.

When I get time....

Until then, Woot Woot; the awesome train is now boarding, all aboard?






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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Thu Oct 30th at 6:53pm 2008


HELL YEAH! Dude this is AWESOME! I am so stoked.. everything looks great. I love the new posting appearance.. and the map highlights. Are you going to remove the two maps from the side bar and just leave that as the preview for downloads? I think they should be separate.. if you want to high-lite the maps then have them on the side, and the other downloads like models and such along the bottom under everything. But yeah man.. I LOVE THE NEW LOOK.. you really pulled it all together!



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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Oct 30th at 7:28pm 2008


Thanks guys smiley

Riven - the overlays are pretty trivial to implement now I've done the main code for them. I created them because I wanted to make the front page map images seem less cluttered while retaining salient information about the map.

The problem with them is that they cover up part of the thumbnail image. This is why they have an 80% opacity value until you rollover them so that the full image can still be partially seen... (I settled for 80% after experimenting as any lighter was unreadable while still obscuring the image).

I didn't implement them in the maps section because I felt there was more space to play with and they would just obscure images unnecessarily... making them completely transparent until mouseover would mean you could no longer simply look at a big list of all the maps and quickly see ratings/games/mods etc without mousing over each one.

Does that reasoning make sense?

There are some cool places they can still be good to use though, like on the featured map on a user's profile for instance (where some of the description text can be shown too, which looks pretty good).

Muhnay - aaaages ago I started out with the spotlight area of the front page being just a 'latest maps' section. That got modified after ppl discussed it a bit to a section that a) included new articles and downloads too and b)wasn't simply a list of latest updates, but was controlled by admins so we could maybe show some older content or 'hidden gems' if we wanted.

Then people wanted a place for latest forum posts and whatnot .... I think there have been so many changes that maybe the focus has been lost a little bit on what content we're trying to show where.

Maybe we could do maps down the side with big thumbs... articles and downloads little thumbs under the news... then under that some bigger thumbs going across for any spotlight content?

Then again I think it's kinda good as it is...

Pff I dunno, go make a new site layout in Photoshop :P




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by haymaker on Thu Oct 30th at 11:55pm 2008


Very cool look smiley

Im viewing this on a friend's machine running ffox 2.0.0.4, desktop res 1024x768...I'm getting lots of orientation/space strangeness

- front page displays "community news" vertically underneath "spotlight", where it was to the right before
- front page map thumbs are weird, first two are hard right, next two are hard left as if they are after a line break
- this forum topic is too wide for the screen, have to use scrollbar hard right to see a reply in its entirety
- looking at a map in "maps" gives me what looks like old-style frames around the text, forcing the use of scrollbars

I'll check my own version of FFox later.




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Fri Oct 31st at 1:30am 2008


Larchy Will do.. smiley

It maybe his screen size.. I am seeing everything just fine. I am at 1400x1050 and have Fire Fox 3.03




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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Le Chief on Fri Oct 31st at 3:43am 2008


smiley Looks niiiice!





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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Natus on Fri Oct 31st at 7:49am 2008


I liked the old theme better to be honest, the current menu buttons and the whole gradient thing just looks a bit too "I just got photoshop"-ish, besides, it isn't displayed correctly on lower resultions, I can see just about 4/5 of the page in FF3 on my EEE (1024x600).




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