I've been thinking about the comments system a bit more.
I don't see any reason why the discussion can't be a forum thread like we have now for maps, and just format the thread to fit on the page of the map it refers to.
I don't see why a discussion topic needs to be optional... every map can just have a topic. If an author doesn't want feedback then he doesn't have to read the thread :P ...but the thread discussion will probably be useful for people downloading or using the map.
I think that would be a good way of doing things and it shouldn't be a problem to transfer all the old and current comments into threads. We could have the same system for articles too, and an articles discussion forum... and for downloads too?
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How much do we need to donate for lunarpages? It's around £45 for a year ain't it? So if I pop Gwil £15 and two other people do the same will that be enough? I don't mind giving more if needs be... I'll pay the 40 quid if you like, just to get things going.
No immediate hurry as I want a bit more time to work on the new version of the site which I'm planning to upload&test on the new host as there are quite a lot of changes.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Thu Jan 1st at 5:31pm 2009
Posted by G4MER on Thu Jan 1st at 5:31pm 2009
I dont know quid, so tell me if I can pay in American $, if so let me know what it is in Dollars and I will donate.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 1st at 5:43pm 2009
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Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 1st at 5:43pm 2009
quid is just slang for one of Her Brittanic Majesty's Imperial Sterling Pounds
/salutes
£1 is currently $1.45
So £15 would be $21.75
That's if me, you and.. er.. Riven was it? all donated.
snarkpit.net is registered through godaddy
I've got a plan in my head that if we grab the lunarpages hosting I can upload this new update I've been working on and iron out any kinks on the new hosting. Then we can just point the domain name at the new host when we're ready... sound ok?
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£1 is currently $1.45
So £15 would be $21.75
That's if me, you and.. er.. Riven was it? all donated.
snarkpit.net is registered through godaddy
I've got a plan in my head that if we grab the lunarpages hosting I can upload this new update I've been working on and iron out any kinks on the new hosting. Then we can just point the domain name at the new host when we're ready... sound ok?
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Riven on Thu Jan 1st at 6:05pm 2009
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Ok, Thanks for that link Aaron, I knew there was a thread started about the Links page, but I forgot.
New Links added:
@ Larchy: about comments. I am for the idea of having full Thread features right on map profiles! -That sounds like an excellent idea. I also think you're right about discussion topics. They should be default for every map.
For articles, yes, Thread features right at the bottom of the page would be great! However, I don't see it necessary to have a whole new forum created for Articles. We already have an Article layout. I suppose it's because we never had one before for articles (even though we did have comments for them) -It just never seemed necessary. -Unless of course people are for it? I'm more for as few forums as possible. The Maps forum can stay because people don't have to post a map profile in order to make a thread in it. So it serves other purposes.
We've never had comments for downloads, so any form of communication about those might be welcome. Again, I wouldn't build an entire forum for them, but maybe quick reply comments would be sufficient.
-New idea about map threads. Would it be redundant if Threads on a map's profile were the threads listed on the map's forum? I mean, If you clicked on a map's thread in the map's forum, it would take you to that map's actual profile page instead of the standard thread detail page. -Maybe this was what you were already planning?
-Also, for the links page, is it possible to auto alphabetize them? And remove the backslash bug from the form fields. (every time you see a " or ' it places a / in front of it)
@ Muhnay: I donated $20 USD. It's simple. First choose you're $ USD amount you want to donate, then calculate the £ GBP amount using Gwil's conversion ratio:
10.00 USD
=
6.85412 GBP
Then type in your £ GBP amount in the donation box and fill the card info out and submit! Low and behold, on your bank statement it will read your original $ USD amount you spent. Paypal converts it back for you when during the charging process.
New Links added:
- The VDC
- Gamedevmap
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- The Optimization Guide
- TWHL
- SnarkPit Steam group
@ Larchy: about comments. I am for the idea of having full Thread features right on map profiles! -That sounds like an excellent idea. I also think you're right about discussion topics. They should be default for every map.
For articles, yes, Thread features right at the bottom of the page would be great! However, I don't see it necessary to have a whole new forum created for Articles. We already have an Article layout. I suppose it's because we never had one before for articles (even though we did have comments for them) -It just never seemed necessary. -Unless of course people are for it? I'm more for as few forums as possible. The Maps forum can stay because people don't have to post a map profile in order to make a thread in it. So it serves other purposes.
We've never had comments for downloads, so any form of communication about those might be welcome. Again, I wouldn't build an entire forum for them, but maybe quick reply comments would be sufficient.
-New idea about map threads. Would it be redundant if Threads on a map's profile were the threads listed on the map's forum? I mean, If you clicked on a map's thread in the map's forum, it would take you to that map's actual profile page instead of the standard thread detail page. -Maybe this was what you were already planning?
-Also, for the links page, is it possible to auto alphabetize them? And remove the backslash bug from the form fields. (every time you see a " or ' it places a / in front of it)
@ Muhnay: I donated $20 USD. It's simple. First choose you're $ USD amount you want to donate, then calculate the £ GBP amount using Gwil's conversion ratio:
10.00 USD
=
6.85412 GBP
Then type in your £ GBP amount in the donation box and fill the card info out and submit! Low and behold, on your bank statement it will read your original $ USD amount you spent. Paypal converts it back for you when during the charging process.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 1st at 7:36pm 2009
-New idea about map threads. Would it be redundant if Threads on a map's profile were the threads listed on the map's forum? I mean, If you clicked on a map's thread in the map's forum, it would take you to that map's actual profile page instead of the standard thread detail page. -Maybe this was what you were already planning?
Er no, wasn't planning on doing away with the forum altogether. Basically the forum topic for a particular map would just be shown on the map's profile page too in place of the comments system.
A lot of news site do this, where 'comments' on news stories are just a forum topic which gets reformatted slightly and shown on the page for the news item.
I wouldn't have to 'build' a new forum for articles - it's all dynamic m8, the code handles everything. You could make one yourself - the option is there in the control panel. Just type in a name and click "create" :P
I was just thinking if I do this for the maps I may as well do it for articles and downloads too... was just wondering where to stick the threads :P An 'Articles & Downloads' (or separate forums) seemed logical.
cool links page, looks neat
gogo gadget SORT BY name ASC !
Just sent Gwil £20 via the speedy and easy to use Paypal (ffs it's like pulling teeth! sodding thing)
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Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 1st at 7:36pm 2009
Quoting Riven
-New idea about map threads. Would it be redundant if Threads on a map's profile were the threads listed on the map's forum? I mean, If you clicked on a map's thread in the map's forum, it would take you to that map's actual profile page instead of the standard thread detail page. -Maybe this was what you were already planning?
Er no, wasn't planning on doing away with the forum altogether. Basically the forum topic for a particular map would just be shown on the map's profile page too in place of the comments system.
A lot of news site do this, where 'comments' on news stories are just a forum topic which gets reformatted slightly and shown on the page for the news item.
I wouldn't have to 'build' a new forum for articles - it's all dynamic m8, the code handles everything. You could make one yourself - the option is there in the control panel. Just type in a name and click "create" :P
I was just thinking if I do this for the maps I may as well do it for articles and downloads too... was just wondering where to stick the threads :P An 'Articles & Downloads' (or separate forums) seemed logical.
cool links page, looks neat
gogo gadget SORT BY name ASC !
Just sent Gwil £20 via the speedy and easy to use Paypal (ffs it's like pulling teeth! sodding thing)
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Thu Jan 1st at 8:09pm 2009
Posted by G4MER on Thu Jan 1st at 8:09pm 2009
On Tuesday I get paid.. I will donate then.. $25.00 USD ok?
Not sure I can use Paypal though.. will see what I can do.. if not, what other ways can I donate?
Not sure I can use Paypal though.. will see what I can do.. if not, what other ways can I donate?
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Fri Jan 2nd at 12:17am 2009
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Posted by Gwil on Fri Jan 2nd at 12:17am 2009
Paypal is rubbish as it goes but is still pretty decent. $25USD is excellent Muhnay - that should bring us over target for hosting, which I will match for 2 years of security.
Re: domain name. larchy, i think its tied to globat D: I might have to get nasty with their support!
Re: domain name. larchy, i think its tied to globat D: I might have to get nasty with their support!
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Fri Jan 2nd at 9:12am 2009
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Posted by larchy on Fri Jan 2nd at 9:12am 2009
There is a 'domain management' option in the globat CP, but it just says "fuck off" (or something similar, can't remember exactly :P )
There should be a way of changing where it points to or getting proper control of it somehow... just have to ask. Maybe check before buying the lunarpages hosting just in case there's a problem?
There should be a way of changing where it points to or getting proper control of it somehow... just have to ask. Maybe check before buying the lunarpages hosting just in case there's a problem?
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Le Chief on Thu Jan 8th at 11:49am 2009
Posted by Le Chief on Thu Jan 8th at 11:49am 2009
Maybe its just one of those nights, but the black to white gradient transition/fade in the menu at the top is starting to get to me a bit. I think it should be more subtle, perhaps it could fade to a gray instead? I don't know how that will affect the "Welcome member! | updates | cp | logout | search" thing.
Just a suggestion, what do you guys think?
Just a suggestion, what do you guys think?
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 8th at 12:36pm 2009
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Thu Jan 8th at 12:47pm 2009
Posted by G4MER on Thu Jan 8th at 12:47pm 2009
I really like the blue. How can I switch?
Ok, so I have 25 bucks burninga hole in my internet pocket. But I can not use paypal.. they say I have an account registered to my 2 email address. One I logged into after the password retreve.. the other was closed. The one I logged into says I owe them money.. but I dont recall ever using it or the ebay account its linked too. So I closed it.
I want to donate this money so we can get the new hosting and move forward. I am looking at other options.. any ideas? Can I use my Credit Card without having a PayPal account?
Ok, so I have 25 bucks burninga hole in my internet pocket. But I can not use paypal.. they say I have an account registered to my 2 email address. One I logged into after the password retreve.. the other was closed. The one I logged into says I owe them money.. but I dont recall ever using it or the ebay account its linked too. So I closed it.
I want to donate this money so we can get the new hosting and move forward. I am looking at other options.. any ideas? Can I use my Credit Card without having a PayPal account?
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 8th at 1:04pm 2009
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Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 8th at 1:04pm 2009
You can't - that's the new version of the site which is for the new hosting. Still a work in progress but it will bring a few new things like the discussion topics for maps we've been talking about:
Topics created for all old maps (see the forum screenshot above and check the topic dates!), and all current comments, old comments and reviews copied into the relevant map threads:
New control panel:
etc...
If you click on the link Gwil posted above then it let's you enter a credit card without a paypal account, although the card must not be registered to a paypal account or it will complain that you need to be logged in.
Gwil is really busy with Uni work and is focused on his dissertation, so sorting out the hosting can wait until next week when he tells me he'll be finished
Topics created for all old maps (see the forum screenshot above and check the topic dates!), and all current comments, old comments and reviews copied into the relevant map threads:
New control panel:
etc...
If you click on the link Gwil posted above then it let's you enter a credit card without a paypal account, although the card must not be registered to a paypal account or it will complain that you need to be logged in.
Gwil is really busy with Uni work and is focused on his dissertation, so sorting out the hosting can wait until next week when he tells me he'll be finished
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by reaper47 on Fri Jan 9th at 8:49pm 2009
Posted by reaper47 on Fri Jan 9th at 8:49pm 2009
So this is the first time I'm using that PayPal Donation thingy. You just got 15 GBP from some guy from Austria. If it worked. 
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Fri Jan 9th at 10:07pm 2009
Posted by G4MER on Fri Jan 9th at 10:07pm 2009
Can someone stick the Paypal info on the front page, please?
Thanks Reaper for the support.
Thanks Reaper for the support.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by omegaslayer on Wed Jan 14th at 7:59am 2009
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Posted by omegaslayer on Wed Jan 14th at 7:59am 2009
Dont know if this is an issue, but I check the pit from multiple computers. I always log onto the pit at home, then I log on else where (normal), then when I come home I navigate to the pit, it says there was a log-in error (Outdated cookie?).
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 14th at 10:03am 2009
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Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 14th at 10:03am 2009
The login thingy authenticates you against an ip address, so it'll kick you out if you change PCs and you'll have to log in again.
If this is getting annoying for you I'll see if I can work a way around it.
If this is getting annoying for you I'll see if I can work a way around it.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by tnkqwe on Wed Jan 14th at 3:30pm 2009
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Posted by tnkqwe on Wed Jan 14th at 3:30pm 2009
I'll really miss this theme of the Pit after the change.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 14th at 4:10pm 2009
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Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 14th at 4:10pm 2009
why? it's still there! I've made the width smaller to accomodate the smaller screen sizes, but the blue is just an additional theme. This black one will still be the default! 
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 14th at 6:40pm 2009
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Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 14th at 6:40pm 2009
Hi everyone - just to confirm, all those who have donated so far I have received your donations and were are in good stead to buy up some new hosting. As larchy pointed out I was rather tied up with uni work lately - that's all behind me since Monday though this week has been turned over thus far to tidying up/clearing away old papers and sorting out my post graduate application. Got a family birthday tomorrow so it'll be Friday when I look into buying the new hosting and harassing Globat about the domain name.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Wed Jan 14th at 8:13pm 2009
Posted by G4MER on Wed Jan 14th at 8:13pm 2009
Thanks GWIL for the update. I will still kick in what I have promissed..
I have had a hell of a few days now. My Uncle was hospitlized, and in the process the EMT felt his living conditions were sub standard and we had ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES come in and inspect us.. his room was bad, so we spent the weekend cleaning it.. and it was far worse than I thought. He just got home today, and can not walk so we have had to baby him and I am under a whole lot of stress. But as soon as I either explode, or cool down and things settle here.. I will be back in full swing.
I have had a hell of a few days now. My Uncle was hospitlized, and in the process the EMT felt his living conditions were sub standard and we had ADULT PROTECTIVE SERVICES come in and inspect us.. his room was bad, so we spent the weekend cleaning it.. and it was far worse than I thought. He just got home today, and can not walk so we have had to baby him and I am under a whole lot of stress. But as soon as I either explode, or cool down and things settle here.. I will be back in full swing.
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