Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Oct 9th at 7:51pm 2008
Hi, sorry I've been real busy these past few weeks and unable to check back in here.
Yak_Fighter - I apologise for the issues with the pits. The problem with the upload/edit/delete links not working with IE has now been fixed - this was caused by IE not handling spaces in the javascript function which opens the popup windows, and the inline link descriptions (eg "edit folder" or "add file") were breaking things.
I see there are some layout issues with IE and the pits page though, so I'll try and fix that up when I get a chance, and I'll add a multiple file upload form too.
Right now I have no idea why a period is being appended to the uploads - this did not happen on the beta site and does not happen with my local development version of the site. The process for saving the files is the same as for maps etc, so I shall have to look at this more closely first chance I get.
Orpheus - I would like to make it clear that no content has been lost from the old site, be it your tutorials or anything else. The database has been reorganised, but the content is exactly the same, as are all the files. There are also backups of the original database and most files to ensure that nothing would be lost. If you are unable to find anything then please tell us what it is so that we can check whether it is in a different section or if a section of the database is not being displayed correctly. Many articles (especially older articles) were not associated with a particular user id and some did not have categories etc - therefore the articles simply may not be appearing under your name, or there may be some orphaned articles that aren't being shown amongst the current categories. If I do not know what has gone I am unable to find and fix the issue, so please let me know!
Also, I do not wish for anyone to feel that they are being forced into using a particular browser. However I have coded firstly for standards compliance (although I am bound to have made mistakes in places) which means that the site should render correctly in Firefox 2, Firefox 3, Safari, Opera, Konquerer and basically any Webkit or Gecko based browser.
IE's rendering engine is notoriously fickle, and while I can code one version of the site and have it work on all the above browsers I then have to go through and code an IE6 version, and IE7 XP version, and IE7 Vista version (IE7 acts differently on XP/Vista), and IE8 'compliant' version.
This can take quite a bit of time, and I may not catch everything that isn't working as my main focus is not this area. This is also why I asked everyone to try and help as much as possible by using the beta site, but feedback there was unfortunately limited and there have been developments since the site has gone live.
The site has specific code for detecting browser versions, and rather than trying to force you to use FireFox there are actually IE specific bits of internal code and IE specific stylesheets. Visit the main page on IE and style_ie.css and news_ie.css are loaded for example, along with some differently formatted sections by the internal code, rather than the normal style.css & news.css . Thats 4 different stylesheets just for the index page, and then 8 if you consider the alternate stylesheet. Then theres places with _ie7.css etc.... you get the picture
I am sorry if my lack of attention to the latter has caused you problems, however my main focus has been functionality for the majority of users. I will continue to work at providing legacy compatibility with IE, but I hope you can understand that I am working from a standards-first base and IE tweaks will take time to find and implement. The support is there though, and I will get things working.
If you have any bugs or layout issues then please TELL ME what they are - if I know what they are I can fix them more quickly.
Flood control is enabled but the timeout limit is pretty short as it is mainly intended to prevent spamming. Increasing it will prevent double posting, but probably just annoy everyone else.
Dark Tree - all the issues you list seem to be related to cookies, so check something isn't causing them to be cleared for this site. In FF3 go to tools>options>privacy>cookies and look down the list to "snarkpit.net" and see that they're being saved ok. Feel free delete the entry then revisit the site to check that they're being recreated ok.
Broken Links - I had hoped that most would have been fixed... I wrote some scripts to convert old links to new ones and for the most part these work (else you'd notice a lot more broken stuff!). If there are bad links please post them and where they appear - chances are that if they are of a particular pattern it should be no problem at all to fix them and all similar links like them.

larchy
super admin
496 posts
87 snarkmarks
Registered: Jan 14th 2008
Location: UK
Occupation: kitten fluffer
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Flynn on Sat Oct 11th at 6:52pm 2008
It would be nice to have a "Who's online feature" like on the old 'Pit as well.

Flynn
member
454 posts
107 snarkmarks
Registered: Oct 1st 2004
Location: England
Just Kidding
Just Kidding
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Orpheus on Sat Oct 11th at 10:23pm 2008
Quoting Gwil
i've got a fairly decent AGP somewhere, not sure though that its still here. If it is, I will send it your way.
If its better than an old ATI 9000 send it to me. I'll reimburse you, or if need be, I'll send you the money in advance. Either way works for me.
My phone number is my profile. My mailing address is:
Jon Rickenbacker
P.O. box 2147
Muldrow Ok
74948
Also, as luck would have it, I lost your mailing address Gwil. Please make sure that you include it so I can send you that, assistance I promised you.
Larchy, The tutorials are missing, I assume because they were only marginally helpful to Snarkpits furtherance of assistance toward mapping. Since they were only of moderate use, I assumed they were removed on that basis.
/me waves at MS..
[ Edited by orpheus on Sat Oct 11th 2008 at 4:24pm - total edits: 1]

Orpheus
member
13860 posts
1547 snarkmarks
Registered: Aug 26th 2001
Location: Long Oklahoma - USA
Occupation: Long Haul Trucking
The best things in life, aren't things.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Mon Oct 13th at 8:58pm 2008
another potential pit issue:
I can't seem to upload html files. After hitting upload on the popup page the pit will refresh but the file won't be there. I've uploaded other files (ex: css, jpg, png, gif) no problem. This is while using firefox.

Yak_Fighter
member
1832 posts
406 snarkmarks
Registered: Dec 30th 2001
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Occupation: College Student/Slacker
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Captain P on Mon Oct 13th at 10:49pm 2008
I don't know if this has been mentioned before already, but the previous site allowed forum threads to be divided into several chapters. These chapters appear to be inaccessible now - which means quite a few map threads only contain alpha- or beta-stage posts, because later versions had a chapter of their own.
Perhaps you could simply append those chapters to their respective threads?

Captain P
member
1370 posts
247 snarkmarks
Registered: Nov 6th 2003
Location: Netherlands
Occupation: Game-programmer
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Flynn on Tue Oct 14th at 5:58pm 2008
Since you have done that so quickly and efficiently how about making users posting history accessible through their profile for them :P This really is a vital feature since one can follow up any replies and pull up old topics for reference etc which is far quicker than trawling through the forums for them. Infact trawling through the forums for them is so difficult it is impractical unless you posted something a few days ago.
[ Edited by Flynn on Tue Oct 14th 2008 at 6:01pm - total edits: 1]

Flynn
member
454 posts
107 snarkmarks
Registered: Oct 1st 2004
Location: England
Just Kidding
Just Kidding
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Tue Oct 14th at 8:20pm 2008
OH LARCHY! Thats Awesome! Love that look.. needs a little orange in there, but yeah man.. NICE! If you need any help with that man let me know. I may not be able to code much.. but I can help with graphics on the interface.

G4MER
member
2458 posts
360 snarkmarks
Registered: Sep 6th 2003
Location: USA
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by G4MER on Wed Oct 15th at 11:13am 2008
Cool.. thanks.. I will work some stuff up.
Do you want it to be in that Font if so, can you link me too it?
I am excited to be able to contribute!

G4MER
member
2458 posts
360 snarkmarks
Registered: Sep 6th 2003
Location: USA