Our "potential coder"? Who can he be? *mystery*
He certainly has good ideas IMO.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Jan 9th at 12:05am 2008
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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Wed Jan 9th at 12:05am 2008
? quoting Gwil
RE Map Review system
When a map gets reviewed, the review is highlighted on the front page
People read the review, and score the review ala Amazon - so the best reviews finish up nearer the top with "8 people found this review helpful"
That's a suggestion from our potential coder, and it's one I like - what do you guys think?
When a map gets reviewed, the review is highlighted on the front page
People read the review, and score the review ala Amazon - so the best reviews finish up nearer the top with "8 people found this review helpful"
That's a suggestion from our potential coder, and it's one I like - what do you guys think?
I'm not a fan because my smart elitist critical eye will not jive with the common "wow this map looks beautiful 10/10" view when it plays like ass buuuuut...
make sure that the map's author cannot rate his own map's review, and that the reviewer can't rate his own review as well.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 9th at 3:56am 2008
Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 9th at 3:56am 2008
Listing systems of all kinds need to be dynamic. It's a good idea to make the default "by best rated, descending", but, you should be able to, for example, click the column somewhere (like the label or something) and be able to sort it by that value, click it again to change between ascending and descending, etc.
A lot of sites have the issue where they'll list the best whatever, and so new and unrated stuff (which in most cases gets a rating of 0) will always be at the bottom of a potentially long list and no one will ever see it in the listing.
A lot of sites have the issue where they'll list the best whatever, and so new and unrated stuff (which in most cases gets a rating of 0) will always be at the bottom of a potentially long list and no one will ever see it in the listing.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 9th at 4:32pm 2008
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 9th at 4:32pm 2008
At a site like the snarkpit lol10 reviews should go to the bottom of the list quite fast.
Also both the main/news and the general review section should have a "newest review" window, so they don't stay unrated for too long.
I too like having some freedom of how to sort, though. Newest first should be an option for all the lists.
Also both the main/news and the general review section should have a "newest review" window, so they don't stay unrated for too long.
I too like having some freedom of how to sort, though. Newest first should be an option for all the lists.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by DrGlass on Thu Jan 10th at 9:39pm 2008
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Posted by DrGlass on Thu Jan 10th at 9:39pm 2008
I think a rating system that has only three choices is a good way to go. I imagine it would be like "digg this" but your options would be: "I: LIKE - NEUTRAL - DON'T LIKE"
Reviews could have a out-of-ten score *
(though I'd want something my dynamic so people could weight their numbers, for instance I feel that a 5/10 is a good score, 10 is so outstanding that very few people should archive while 3 is a few steps above kill box) * but the reviews would be rated by the community "I: LIKE - NEUTRAL - DON'T LIKE".
Like could just be a +1, neutral = 0, don't like = -1. Then you could sort by the number.
We could also have a flag system, flags for the normal stuff (bad words, spam, etc.) but also for things the community doesn't like (l33t speak, lame stuff: "lol n1ce map"). Enough flags could change the color of the post color.
We should so some chatting on our steam community chat room.
Reviews could have a out-of-ten score *
(though I'd want something my dynamic so people could weight their numbers, for instance I feel that a 5/10 is a good score, 10 is so outstanding that very few people should archive while 3 is a few steps above kill box) * but the reviews would be rated by the community "I: LIKE - NEUTRAL - DON'T LIKE".
Like could just be a +1, neutral = 0, don't like = -1. Then you could sort by the number.
We could also have a flag system, flags for the normal stuff (bad words, spam, etc.) but also for things the community doesn't like (l33t speak, lame stuff: "lol n1ce map"). Enough flags could change the color of the post color.
We should so some chatting on our steam community chat room.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu Jan 10th at 10:56pm 2008
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Posted by Yak_Fighter on Thu Jan 10th at 10:56pm 2008
...but swearing is fun!
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Le Chief on Fri Jan 11th at 1:30am 2008
Posted by Le Chief on Fri Jan 11th at 1:30am 2008
I'm sick of having to search the forums if I wont to post a new thread in the half-life editing board, its common sense to search the board first than post a topic if you couldn't find anything. Anyway, there is no harm in a question being asked twice or three times or more on the board.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Crono on Fri Jan 11th at 6:07am 2008
Posted by Crono on Fri Jan 11th at 6:07am 2008
It used to be that way ... but then people never searched.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Sun Jan 13th at 2:32am 2008
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Posted by Gwil on Sun Jan 13th at 2:32am 2008
Good news people! My coder has been snared, and soon enough we will have a working beta (well, best part of a month or so he reckons) for you to comment and feedback upon for the final version.
Now is a good time to start working on new maps, textures, prefabs, sounds, tutorials, props etc etc for the re-release! Also, tell your friends! If you do, I'll buy you a beer if we ever meet.
Perhaps.
Now is a good time to start working on new maps, textures, prefabs, sounds, tutorials, props etc etc for the re-release! Also, tell your friends! If you do, I'll buy you a beer if we ever meet.
Perhaps.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Le Chief on Sun Jan 13th at 2:43am 2008
Posted by Le Chief on Sun Jan 13th at 2:43am 2008
Thats great news buddy ![<img src=]()
" SRC="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif">. I have a couple of things (including a new tutorial) that I would like to contribute to the new snarkpit.
I just have a question, now I wont do this, but somebody from twhl wanted me to add my mp5 tutorial onto twhl as well, they said that you shouldn't mind unless "your anal with these things". Now I wont do this![<img src=]()
" SRC="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">, but just curious, what happens if me or somebody submitted a tutorial to this site than later submitted the same thing to twhl?
I just have a question, now I wont do this, but somebody from twhl wanted me to add my mp5 tutorial onto twhl as well, they said that you shouldn't mind unless "your anal with these things". Now I wont do this
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Mon Jan 14th at 2:48pm 2008
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Posted by Gwil on Mon Jan 14th at 2:48pm 2008
As far as i'm concerned the tutorials are the authors property merely presented on the Snarkpit, so please go ahead and republish it wherever you please.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Le Chief on Tue Jan 15th at 12:04am 2008
Posted by Le Chief on Tue Jan 15th at 12:04am 2008
Don't worry, I wont, just wondering.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 30th at 12:54am 2008
Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 30th at 12:54am 2008
I've got a quick suggestion that would make things nice.
For viewing history (you know how threads you haven't read are yellow and bold, etc) currently it's controlled by cookies/sessions locally on the user machine, while that's cool and all, and it generally works, it'd be nice if it were also logged in the database, per user. Either cross reference them or something like that to make things a little more efficient.
The purpose of this is so you can go to any computer log in and get an accurate representation of what your user has seen rather than the computer you're currently sitting at. Plenty of sites already do something like this, but most of them have some issues that make it inaccurate.
For viewing history (you know how threads you haven't read are yellow and bold, etc) currently it's controlled by cookies/sessions locally on the user machine, while that's cool and all, and it generally works, it'd be nice if it were also logged in the database, per user. Either cross reference them or something like that to make things a little more efficient.
The purpose of this is so you can go to any computer log in and get an accurate representation of what your user has seen rather than the computer you're currently sitting at. Plenty of sites already do something like this, but most of them have some issues that make it inaccurate.
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 30th at 11:02am 2008
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 30th at 11:02am 2008
Good idea, Crono. I've been thinking the same (the problem, I didn't come up with a solution like you just did).
Also currently (which might have little to do with the relaunch-site) it lists your own last posts as "new posts since last visit" in forums.
Also currently (which might have little to do with the relaunch-site) it lists your own last posts as "new posts since last visit" in forums.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 30th at 12:49pm 2008
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Posted by larchy on Wed Jan 30th at 12:49pm 2008
I'll see what I can do, although such as system (which phpbb3 uses) requires you to be logged in.... which is the disadvantage of doing things that way rather than with a cookie. I'd probably prefer doing it that way anyway though rather than the current method.
Still, at the moment I'm just getting the core functionality sorted and can worry about the bells and whistles later.
The way the database is set out is a little... um... well not what I'd expect in places and because we obviously want to keep all the current content I'm taking a little longer to work around it rather than starting afresh.
Still, at the moment I'm just getting the core functionality sorted and can worry about the bells and whistles later.
The way the database is set out is a little... um... well not what I'd expect in places and because we obviously want to keep all the current content I'm taking a little longer to work around it rather than starting afresh.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by ReNo on Wed Jan 30th at 1:53pm 2008
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Posted by ReNo on Wed Jan 30th at 1:53pm 2008
Ahha, you must be the coder that Gwil mentioned! Welcome to the site mate, good luck figuring out whatever gubbins Lep has going on back there ![<img src=]()
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 30th at 7:17pm 2008
Posted by reaper47 on Wed Jan 30th at 7:17pm 2008
Finally the secret is unveiled. Welcome and good luck with the coding!
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 30th at 7:28pm 2008
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Posted by Gwil on Wed Jan 30th at 7:28pm 2008
You shouldn't have revealed your identity! You are aware that now you are a marked man? We have some sociopathic tendencies amongst the members here.
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Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 30th at 9:15pm 2008
Posted by Crono on Wed Jan 30th at 9:15pm 2008
All you have to do for people who aren't logged in is mark nothing new. It's a special case.
Edit: One more thing, if you use the existing parsing code for a post that interprets special things (like bb and links), could you remove the requirement that a link needs a space in front of it to be recognized?
For example:
http://www.snarkpit.net (no space)
vs
http://www.snarkpit.net (with space)
Edit: One more thing, if you use the existing parsing code for a post that interprets special things (like bb and links), could you remove the requirement that a link needs a space in front of it to be recognized?
For example:
http://www.snarkpit.net (no space)
vs
http://www.snarkpit.net (with space)
Blame it on Microsoft, God does.
Re: The Snarkpit Relaunch
Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 31st at 8:47am 2008
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Posted by larchy on Thu Jan 31st at 8:47am 2008
Yeah, thats what I meant by "it wouldn't work for ppl who aren't logged in". You don't actually have to do anything... if they aren't logged in then you can't match them up with any DB data so everything will just show as old by default... its not a "special case" or anything, its just that that method can't be used if you've got nothing to match the data against.
I'm a little unsure what direction to take with the parse code. Normally the way a forum would work is a post would have any html chars converted before being shoved into the database, and then you'd parse the string when you wanted to output it again. On here the string gets parsed before entry into the database, which means you can't correct any earlier errors in the code because the posts already have the html in place of the bbcode the poster would have entered.
What I think I'll do is parse posts on output... which will correct the above issue in existing and future posts... posts with existing html will be ok as the characters are only converted on input. Editing older posts may be a little weird though and there may be some display issues... I'll just have to play around and see what works best
I'm a little unsure what direction to take with the parse code. Normally the way a forum would work is a post would have any html chars converted before being shoved into the database, and then you'd parse the string when you wanted to output it again. On here the string gets parsed before entry into the database, which means you can't correct any earlier errors in the code because the posts already have the html in place of the bbcode the poster would have entered.
What I think I'll do is parse posts on output... which will correct the above issue in existing and future posts... posts with existing html will be ok as the characters are only converted on input. Editing older posts may be a little weird though and there may be some display issues... I'll just have to play around and see what works best
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