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Posted by 2dmin on Fri Jan 9th at 8:57am 2004

wrong.

in steam-based games you can get higher than 100 fps by turning on developer (developer 1) and fps_max (whatever) ... I can get up to 1000 if i turn all the settings down and look at the wall

anyway the point of getting 300 fps even if the eye can see up to (60, 200, wahtever) is that it leads to constant smooth playing, even in 10 smoke grenades (the 1.6 smokes are punishing for graphics cards)

my monitor refresh rate is 80 hz

how could a GF2mx beat a GF4mx? the GF4mx is basically a GF2TI with higher clock speed and better renderers... thats better than a GF2mx

with my mx440 i got about 70 - 120 fps in hl based games...

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Posted by matt on Fri Jan 9th at 9:33am 2004

Why buy a ?350 Graphics card when you can get some more memory for less than ?50. If your graphics card isn't to bad, then leave it alone and get some more memory. Besides, how many ppl can afford that much money for a new grahics card? I certainly can't. Besides, we seem to of had a lot of Graphics card related posts recently. Come on guys, lets have some origionality! [addsig]



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Posted by Gollum on Fri Jan 9th at 3:58pm 2004

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how could a GF2mx beat a GF4mx? the GF4mx is basically a GF2TI with higher clock speed and better renderers... thats better than a GF2mx

I assume you are referring to my earlier post? If so, you lampoon yourself better than I can Read it again, and carefully this time:

? posted by Gollum

Hahahahaha -

My Geforce2MX < your Geforce4MX.

Yeah.

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Posted by scary_jeff on Fri Jan 9th at 4:14pm 2004

OK I didn't know about the steam thing. Still you can see why people call you a liar because won't most know about that setting. Anyway why are you going into a game of Cs and boasting about your FPS? If people didn't think you were lying they would jsut think you were a fool for talking about that in the first place



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Posted by DeathMedic3rd on Fri Jan 9th at 5:48pm 2004

I only have a Geforce FX5200 128Mb DDR 128bit version smiley

and i get around 30 - 90fps in Half-Life and CS.

althought my Celeron 416Mhz (OCed from 333Mhz) sometimes struggles with half-life. :cries:

but run counter-strike fine, only problem is lag and thats because of my 56k.

i dis like the half-life frame rate cap, as i know i can get over 100fps.

BTW i would of got a ATI card but my AGP slot is up the creek and im waiting for my newer pc parts to be dilivered

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Posted by Wild Card on Fri Jan 9th at 6:58pm 2004

? posted by DeathMedic3rd

I only have a Geforce FX5200 128Mb DDR 128bit version smiley

If you dont like it, send it to me, I'll gladly take it over my GF2TI

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Posted by DeathMedic3rd on Fri Jan 9th at 7:40pm 2004

ok i'll send it in the post, straight away </sarcasam>

im saying i'd like a better Gfx card, but my current mobo doesn't have a working AGP slot

and i think i'll wait a bit till i get a better card.

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Posted by Gollum on Fri Jan 9th at 7:42pm 2004

*Enter Captain Obvious with an overblown flourish*

Sinner, your graphics card is not limiting the performance of games. Your processor is.

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Posted by Wild Card on Fri Jan 9th at 7:46pm 2004

you gunna get a new mobo then or a PCI card?

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Posted by DeathMedic3rd on Fri Jan 9th at 7:49pm 2004

when did i ever say my Gfx card was limiting my games perfomance?

and i've already ordered a Athlon XP2500+ and mobo. but i don't have money for a new Gfx card so im pi$$ed with that.

i'll proberly get one in the near future when the FX5950 or 9800XT is cheaper.

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Posted by Crono on Fri Jan 9th at 7:52pm 2004

You know something that would help your computer more then a new processor?

Ram.

The CPU doesn't really define how fast you go, the amount and speed of your ram is much more important. Obviously so is your video card, because it bassically works by it's self on operations. [addsig]



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Posted by DeathMedic3rd on Fri Jan 9th at 7:56pm 2004

well i'm getting 512Mb DDr PC2700 RAM to go with this new mobo. the mobo btw isn't a really good one, it only cost me ?35 and that was with a price cut on it. [addsig]



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Posted by Wild Card on Fri Jan 9th at 7:58pm 2004

Well CPU does affect to some degree. I can see a difference between my 800 Duron and the downstairs 2.4 P4

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Posted by DeathMedic3rd on Fri Jan 9th at 8:29pm 2004

i know the diffrents between my 416Mhz and my dads 1.4Ghz. *sighs*

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Posted by 2dmin on Fri Jan 9th at 9:16pm 2004

matt - well here the 9600 XT was $360 ... that's about 150 pounds ? if i spent 350 pounds that would be about $900 so i would have bought the 9800 XT which IS over the top

sorry sorry gollum ... too used to nooby cs players saying "me > you" ... and then getting killed the instant after they say it

I have 640mb of DDR 400. Crono, after about 512mb of ram, speed really depends on your mobo. people underestimate how important the mobo is. The secret to a fast (possibly budget ) PC is buffer, connectivity, and maybe a good graphics card on the side

my friend has a 700mhz AMD and with a GFX 5600 and 512mb of ram he gets great frames in all games

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Posted by Myrk- on Sat Jan 10th at 12:14am 2004

My Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb DDR cost me ?150 ish from overclockers UK, good buy... Unfortunately the activation key for HL2 isn't working so I'm sorting that out with valve- but don't buy the card mainly because of getting HL2!

Its a nightmare obtaining your copy and it take 6-8 weeks delivery from when the game is released! 6-8 BLOODY WEEKS! I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!

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Posted by scary_jeff on Sat Jan 10th at 1:58am 2004

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I have 640mb of DDR 400


Well that's pretty silly. You are losing out on a massive performance gain by not running in dual channel mode...



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Posted by 2dmin on Sat Jan 10th at 5:48am 2004

rofl. im not an idiot

i have 2 sticks of 256 and 2 sticks of 64, using dual channel

lol myrk what im doing is (this isnt reallly illegal) getting a copy of HL2 off one of my friends when it comes out, use the cd key on the hl2 voucher, and then 6 weeks later get the box, manual etc

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Posted by Gorbachev on Sat Jan 10th at 7:26am 2004

? posted by Myrk-

My Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb DDR cost me ?150 ish from overclockers UK, good buy... Unfortunately the activation key for HL2 isn't working so I'm sorting that out with valve- but don't buy the card mainly because of getting HL2!

Its a nightmare obtaining your copy and it take 6-8 weeks delivery from when the game is released! 6-8 BLOODY WEEKS! I CAN'T WAIT THAT LONG!

Should the key work? The game isn't out you do realize...

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Posted by beer hunter on Sat Jan 10th at 10:17am 2004

? 2dmin

matt - well here the 9600 XT was $360 ... that's about 150 pounds ? if i spent 350 pounds that would be about $900 so i would have bought the 9800 XT which IS over the top

The 9600 is a decent enough card but for about the same price you could've got a Hercules All-in-wonder 9800se and softmodded it to a 9800 pro

It seems that its cut from the same silicon as the pro version, this was about 3 months ago tho' so they may have found ways to stop this sneaky mod.






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